Ancient wisdom from Sun Tzu - TheArtofWar

Posted: Dec 5th, 2017 - 1:31 pm In Reply to: Get on the Lifeboat and Build a Better Ship - MTs for Change

"Surrender without fighting." - Sun Tzu, ancient master of war

IOW, don't keep fighting when it's obvious that the war is already over and you have LOST. If you continue fighting, you are wasting precious resources, including but not limited to TIME, and will just be exhausted in the end.

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Petition Update: Moving Forward - MTs for Change (Views: 1746, 2017-12-03, 12:31 pm)
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        CONTEXT is everything. - LOL (Views: 810, 2017-12-06, 12:38 pm)
    - Disagree - Not moving forward (Views: 880, 2017-12-04, 11:28 am)
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  - For those of us who don't know could you explain this? - What is the history? (Views: 1161, 2017-12-03, 5:57 pm)
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        I think that's the OP. - Reader (Views: 944, 2017-12-04, 9:22 am)
- I sure hope none of the AAMT sellouts are in here. - if so, I want NOTHING to do with that. nm (Views: 924, 2017-12-03, 3:30 pm)
  - No affiliation - MTs for Change (Views: 1072, 2017-12-03, 7:05 pm)
    - That doesn't mean - Realist (Views: 1102, 2017-12-04, 9:11 am)
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- No time for this foolishness. The main threat to our jobs is technology - and you cannot stop that. (Views: 1379, 2017-12-04, 11:04 am)
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      - Lots - see msg (Views: 1291, 2017-12-04, 1:05 pm)
        15 years too late. - Mary (Views: 1058, 2017-12-04, 2:43 pm)
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- Your Titanic is sinking - sm (Views: 1071, 2017-12-05, 1:43 am)
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        All experiences are not equally the same.... - MTs for Change (Views: 915, 2017-12-06, 3:38 pm)
- Final post on this thread - MTs for Change (Views: 820, 2017-12-07, 1:36 pm)
  - Yes, by all means run when the going gets - Tough (Views: 697, 2017-12-07, 5:25 pm)
    - Bring your professional constructive comments to the MT Coalition - MTs for Change (Views: 838, 2017-12-09, 6:13 pm)
      - Why not build on established group - IC (Views: 671, 2017-12-10, 8:42 am)