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"Paid" breaks... again... - good worker


Posted: Apr 05, 2013

It's pretty obvious that we are not being paid for our "paid" breaks to which we are entitled which really irks me to say the least.  Have any of you done the math on this? I just did.  If you took your 2 breaks per day and were paid for them, that would be equal to 1/2 hour of paid time. Let's just say you make $8/hr. That's equal to $4/day in paid breaks or $20/week if you work 5 days/wk.  Multiply this x52 weeks = $1040/yr. I've been with Nuance since they bought out the company I worked for about 2 years ago.  I don't know about you, but I could sure use the $2080 I was cheated out of about right now.  Multipy this by how many employees they have?  Huge savings for them. I'm filing a complaint now to try to recoup my loss. 

paid breaks - confused

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I'm confused. Are you saying that if you work for 4 hours, they take out 30 minutes of that and you only get paid for 3.5 hours? If you're getting paid by production, that shouldn't be an issue, right? If you work for 4 hours and produce your lines and multiply that by your cpl, are you saying they're taking 30 minutes out of that? I'm confused, maybe I'm missing something!!! Are you possibly hourly?

confused - good worker

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This is not for you if you only work 4 hours. Only does it apply to you if you are scheduled to work 6 consecutive hours per day. Then you qualify for 2 paid 15 minute breaks.

Are you sure they're paid or just - mandatory breaks? Does this apply

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to production workers?

The reality is this... - Current MT

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Virtually everyone in this industry is paid on production and most work 8 hours a day. When you take breaks you're not producing and therefore not being paid during that time. In order to have a "true" paid break they should be paying everyone the PTO rate for 30 minutes a day if they're full-time. That's not what is happening though. If you stop working for your "Break" you're not producing and end up with 2-1/2 hours less pay for the week by taking your "official break." Not right, I know, to claim we get paid breaks when we really don't. No work=nopay.

PTO accrues on a pro-rated basis based on number of hours clocked in. - sm

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So you are accruing benefits during break time, even if not technically paid (which they apparently figure is covered by line pay the same as demos, proofing, and research ... see 2013 Compensation and Benefits meeting).

Not condoning the way it's done, just saying that there is *some* benefit accrued for simple clocked-in time. You would be accruing less PTO if you clocked out for breaks.

C and B meeting - good worker

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Do you have a snapshot of this part of the meeting explaining this? I don't remember this being a covered topic.

I was referring to the Base Pay Program Philosophy. - sm

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It's the slide just past Our Mission, under Compensation.

I said "apparently" in terms of breaks being paid for/covered, like the listed unpaid duties.

also.. - good worker

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Have to disagree with this. When you remain clocked in and are not producing lines of work, your hourly pay is adversely effected, thus less $ per hour for PTO.

What category do you fit into when you work - exactly 6 hours? NM

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category - good worker
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Probably the lesser. Ask your supervisor.

Do you have a source for where/how "base pay rate" is calculated? - sm

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Please don't post the exact info (it's against this site's Terms of Service, for one thing), rather just tell me where it could be found or summarize/paraphrase. I dug through the Employee Handbook and Comp and Benefits Webinar and my Team Info sheet, as well as searched e-mails, and found nothing. I realize that I really don't know how it is calculated. Just e-mailed my TSM for some info on where to find (betting she'll direct me to HR). Any info appreciated.
base pay - good worker
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If I remember correctly, it's our average pay over the previous quarter. It's been a while since I asked.
I think you may be right, in which case you're also right - that breaks would decrease that.
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Thus probably nullifying (but not totally?) any PTO benefit accrued. Kind of a Catch-22, but at least there is PTO accrual, making breaks not a total negative in terms of just lowering base pay rate. I think it may be a wash or even a bit in our favor. I'm going to ponder the math on this...

I did the math, and it's basically a wash. - sm

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Using a 1-3 years full-time employee accumulating 80 hours PTO per year @ $10 an hour (250 lph x 4 cpl):


Breaks = 125 hours/year (2.5 hours per week x 50 weeks)


PTO accumulated with clocked-in breaks per year:


125 hours x 0.04 hours PTO accumulated per hour (80 hours PTO per year divided by 2000 hours per year = 0.04; also was in the 2012 Comp and Benefits Webinar broken down per hour) = 5 hours PTO x $9.375 BPR (see below) = plus $46.88


Base pay rate (BPR), assuming it's a straight average:


$80 per day without recorded breaks  (8 hours worked x $10 = $80) = $400/week = $10 BPR ($400 divided by 40 hours)


$75 per day with clocked-in breaks (7.5 hours worked x $10 = $75) = $375/week = $9.375 BPR ($375 divided by 40 hours)


PTO in dollars per year:


80 hours at $10 = $800 (without breaks)


80 hours at $9.375 = $750 (with clocked-in breaks)


Difference = minus $50 (with clocked-in breaks, due to decreased BPR)




So you gain ~$47 in accumulated PTO with clocked-in breaks, yet lose $50 in overall PTO due to the decreased BPR (at 250 lph). It's about the same at $8 an hour (200 lph): You gain ~$38 of PTO (5 hours x $7.5 BPR with clocked-in breaks) and lose $40 due to lower BPR ($640 PTO without breaks, $600 with).  The figures would of course change a bit with years worked (changing PTO benefits) and dollars per hour, but still a negligible difference.  So right, we're not "paid" for breaks, but the decreased base pay rate is at least balanced out by the increased PTO. 


[edit]:  Corrected "PTO accumulated with breaks per year," etc., to the with-breaks base pay rate, not regular hourly rate, and added "clocked-in" for clarification.

Except.... - sm
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In many states you are not to clock out for the 15-minute breaks. So this would not apply to those states. You should still get paid the 15 minutes (30 minutes a day for full-time) and still get your PTO on top of it. This has always irked me too. One more way these companies are cheating their employees.
This *is* with not clocking out, that's why it decreases your base pay rate. - sm
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And also why it increases your PTO, for the time that you're clocked in.

Sorry, mouse slipped. Meant to give a thumbs up. - nm

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