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Donated off the clock time - rock bottom
Posted: Feb 26, 2015
I'm sure I will get monitored for this. I am not asking for some suit have it in for me.
Because I have run into this so much of the time, I am asking people what they are doing.
1) I approve time card on my day off because that is my day off. Takes about 10 minutes total. Donated time.
2) When I submit an IT ticket and I get a call back that is not when I am ordinarily work, and IT has to remote on to my computer because of some mess they made (and they made the mess), I am clocking in under some other than production because to do otherwise would be working off the clock.
3) This week alone I've had 1 hour of computer issues not created by me that I felt necessary to clock in not during regular working hours because that is when IT wanted to fix the issue.
What do you guys do regarding this?
After years of doing this off the clock, and tracking how much time I give them off the clock, I realized that I am giving them an entire week free, between FIESA, e-mail, IT issues, etc. I had not approached my supervisor, but I do believe I should be compensated for this extra time, not giving it to them free.
I've wondered this - myself
[ In Reply To ..]With the computer issue that takes time, clock in when they start, clock out when it's done.
Then, itemize time working off the clock for an entire week. Send itemized list to TSM and ask what description to chose on Webclock for your time doing work activities.
OK, reality check. If you can even get your TSM to answer an email you'd be doing better that I do. Of course, they are not going to pay you for all that donated time because they are the worst of the worst corporate pigs.
Sorry, I have no answer really. Maybe send the itemized list of unpaid work time to the Labor board.
I can relate, I was once without a computer - for 3 days
[ In Reply To ..]It was their computer, they could NOT figure out what was wrong with it. Hence after a day of trying, they sent me a new one, which also takes time. I thought if that happened in an office I would be paid, but no I had to use up all my PTO, or they wanted me to make the time up in like 2 days, no thanks.
I went through 2 foot pedals in 2 months, no idea why, but when you are waiting for a foot pedal you can't work, again uncompensated waiting time. I now have a spare on my own dime just in case.
IT seems to have been hit recently, meaning they are rarely there when you call, they call you back and you have to go on their time. I agree that should not be so. Yet whether it's scheduled to their preference or your preference, you are never getting paid for that time anyway, which sucks.
clocking in and out - justmetoo
[ In Reply To ..]Haven't we always been paid on production, and not hourly? Yes. So, I don't care about their time clock so they can monitor me, collecting data analytics, etc. to screw me further, up line count requirements, etc. So, I routinely work off the clock because the bottom line is I care about how many lines I type, not how many hours I am NOT getting paid for.
well yeah if you enjoy working for free - just want to put in 8 and be done
[ In Reply To ..]Any job-related task should be compensated whether paid by production or not.
I will never clock in and out for every little thing, spending 12 or more hours a day for a job while everyone else in America gets to work 8.
It's a trade-off basically, and I'll take the lower pay over long unpaid hours, thank you.
off the clock time - rock bottom
[ In Reply To ..]Maybe I was not really clear or perhaps too wordy.
This week alone: 3-1/2 hours could not work, computer IT issue. 30 minutes fixing that. Next day, another problem, another 30 minutes. Both of these were on my DAY OFF.
The 15 minutes of approving time card every other week is on my day off.
The conference calls are on my day off.
In sum, doing accurate calculations, for Fiesa, e-mail, computers that the screwed up and have to remote on to fix, all that is running into 50 hours annually.
Then there is the OOW issue. Huh? Clock out, wait 15 minutes off the clock, clock back in, if no work you are free to go. Wait 15 minutes off the clock?
Not sure why or how they get away with this. Even if clocked in, still not producing so still not getting paid.
If they wanted to, they would find an equitable way to recompense for this. But we know they bottom line.
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