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Im sick of you all complaining - sm

Posted: Jan 06, 2013

I tried to rally people about 5 or 6 years ago to stop this stupid outsourcing..I needed several of you from each state to organize groups so we could make our voices heard (not union) just groups that could contact legislators. I got about 10 people that were with me, the rest of you sat back and complained yet did NOTHING.. So this is what you get when you dont get involved, sit back and let others do your dirty work, you get screwed. Your jobs are in India, my job is in India. Im ready to retire, this job will last probably long enough for me to make my exit and the rest of you will be complaining about no work. Is it to late to try again? I dont know, Im not going to spearhead it this time, but Im willing to help.. I highly suggest you all make up your collective minds and do SOMETHING. This private information going to India is a Homeland Security violation, there is a reason identity theft is up in this country, because they have all private information, and they DONT like US. Not to mention the lifethreatening mistakes they are making in the medical reports. Your choice, think about it..

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you, but every time somebody tries to do something, everybody whines and says nothing will help or their not going to get fired, or whatever. People don't get that you can make a difference in groups. Even with something as simple as writing letters, writing newspapers, etc., "nothing will help, look at the telephone operators." I just continue to do what I can do on my own such as writing letters to representatives, newspapers, whatever else I can think of, even letting management know what I think of them. But, I don't see any unity to really get anything done with a very few to do such things. These people need to be exposed for the crooks they are in any way people can think of.

Your right didnt India strike - sm

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There was, so much we could have done..The general public has NO IDEA their information is sent there. A lot of the doctors dont even know. I post on facebook as much as I can, and everyone gets pissed, but I bet they dont protest either. I ask my docs when I first go in, who transcribes and if it goes overseas, I wont see them. The last pain doc said his is kept local because he didnt want sensitive information out of the country..good doc, but I also live in a highly military town, so they are a little more aware of what can happen..Start educating people...

Just so you know - anon

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If it wasn't for out-sourcing none of us would have jobs. You must mean off-shoring.

whatever, 6 of 1 half dozen of the other - nm

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Outsourcing took away our well-paid in-house - transcription jobs.

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This may help - guru

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This article may help your cause.

Let's try that again - guru

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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jury-holds-hospital--transcription-company-responsible-for-fatal-medication-error--140-million-verdict-183799281.html

Nice thank you, but Im done - I tried..sm

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but if anyone wants some help I will join in on that end..

Let's try that again. - kittykat

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I wonder if the MTSO is responsible, too. I would like to see what the contract reads. I also wonder if the docs knew MT's overseas were being used. Its no excuse for the docs not reviewing and signing reports. I will try to follow this and see if there are any countersuits. Gee, 2 cents a line versus 140 million $.

Im not gonna run the charge this time - sm

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but let me know if you get anything up and running..I do still like to cause hate and discontent whenever I can within the government..bunch of theiving crooks every single one of them, same goes for the companies that pay big bucks to get them elected so they can do this kind of crap...

I hope MM, Nuance et al - get hit with this kind of suit

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only I hope nobody dies, just that people here wake up to the fact that their private info is being sent overseas. Of course, the CEOs and COOs will just take their resignation bonus and go on to screw some other company. Hate em!

AT least take that link with the lawsuit and put it on - FB page. sm

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and let people know what is going on behind their backs..A public outcry would be helpful as well...but like most, they will sit back and let someone else do the work

Seems to be a misinterpretation here - old and burned out

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I would think the hospital is liable but not the transcription company itself. The ultimate responsibility rests with the physician who is required to review the report and the hospital is liable for basing treatment on an unsigned report and/or forwarding the unsigned report to another facility. Transcription companies cannot guarantee accuracy. Many times we must leave blanks because of poor audio and these cannot be filled in. The doctor must review the report if it is to be the basis of treatment.

Yeah, but at least they brought out the fact of the Indian - company & saving 2 cpl

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Maybe enough people will start demanding that their records be done here in the US.

Deep pockets ... - anon

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They go for anybody who has money. Now that these MTSOs are so large they have enough money and enough risk management insurance to pay for judgments.

Seems to be a misinterpretation here - kittykat

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Years ago didn't MT used to keep insurance for this purpose? I used to know an MT who had to go to court and testify that was her report. She made the error. Her report was enlarged and sat on an essell for the whole world to see (well, court). The case was thrown out for some technical reason. She worked for a large hospital in Ohio.

Perhaps you should dismount that high-horse. - anon

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No one asked you to do anything. You can kid yourself that even if what you attempted had been done that it would have worked, because it would not have. You delude yourself that you have any power.

For proof take a look at what is happening to unions across the nation. They are being busted slowly and surely and that has been going on for decades. And they actually had some power, unlike a handful of MTs going to their legislatures.

So wake-up from this fantasy that you could have changed the world if only...

And that attitude is why we are in the mess we are - sm

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Im not in the trouble you guys are,,I make more on a retirement packet I have from a real job..I am supplementing my income for how..So keep you attitude and live with what you have..Doesnt affect me one way or the other. I was trying to help, I would rather TRY then sit an cry about it...which is what most of you seem to like to do..

No, profits over anything is why "we are in the mess we are in" - anon

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I actually don't whine about it. I have been fully aware of the decline in this industry for years, as we all have. So anyone still in it really has no excuse to whine. The writing was on the wall 15 years ago.

Here is the one and only true fact of life - Money is power and little ol' MTs have no money, i.e. no power.

I am a realist and the fact is this is a global economy and technology has made it possible for the corporations to go where it is cheapest for labor. There is absolutely NOTHING that can be done by you or any other little worker bee.

Profits are God in the corporate world. I find it odd that people still buy this "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" Hollywood lie that the little guy can make a difference. What a farce.

Your ego is simply working over-time here. You come on here and rant and blame others for something that you failed to achieve. That is whining.

Time for some big girl pants for everyone, including you.

I tried - Nana

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I wrote to my congressman a couple years back about my jobs going to India and the concern for identity theft. It is the first and only time he did not reply to my emails to him. Guess they do not care.

You "guess" they do not care? No guessing needed. - anon

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They don't care. MTs don't have a big lobbying group taking them to the Bahamas for a week of fun and sun to influence their decisions.

It is time for a wake-up call folks. There is only ONE thing that will bring US MT jobs back and that is if there is money in it for the MTSOs. So until that happens either accept the facts of life as they are or retrain. Simple. No whining necessary.

I tried - kittykat

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On the other hand, I am sure all MTSO's already know about the lawsuit. What would Kumar do if we yanked all our services, he will probably sue us, we owe him.

Im not on my high horse - sm

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but you are welcome to sit and take whatever they dish out like a good old worker bee..Things have never gotten done in this country by people rolling over and taking it..Never said it would be easy, never even said it would work, but I would rather try and put forth some effort then sit back and be walked all over.

and you may not complain but your are sure negative - nm

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Not negative, realistic. There is a difference. - anon

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I find the comment that I am negative hilarious in the context of this particular conversation.

Reality seems to be a very difficult concept for a lot of people.

so your realistically sit there and take it. - sm

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Up to you..Not everyone is like you..Im a realist also..But that doesnt mean I am gonna sit there and be used. Right now this job still interests me, when it stops I will move on to the next thing..Makes ZERO difference to me except that I know my medical records could be screwed up when I may need them, and then it will be too late..

Fine, whatever, spin your wheels. - anon

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But don't come on here and tell everyone else what a hero you are and how they all let you down. That is the epitome of whining and complaining.

I don't "sit" here. The time to leave the field was years ago and those who are still young and viable should probably get out now.

You can hope and wish and dream all you want, PROFITS win, ALWAYS and until it is again profitable to have US MTs, nothing will change. Period. End of sentence.

If people - would

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have stood up to them years ago, it wouldn't be the way it is. Who trains the VR? US MTs. Who edits the Indian's work? The US MTs. If everyone would have refused to do the VR (F11) or give the clients what they paid for, then it wouldn't be like it is. The software companies "wanted" this to be the wave of the future and they have succeeded because nobody would refuse to do it. I don't think this person is trying to be a hero. Look at all the crap you are spewing at them. You used to spew at me when I told you to F11 all jobs. If you would have listened, all our pay would not be as low as it is. You let big money rule and we are all paying for it now.

Nice try - anon

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I don't believe I said anything about rolling over. I basically said anyone who didn't see it coming years ago was blind. I personally started retraining and looking elsewhere, as should anyone else who doesn't like where this industry has gone.

However, things have never gotten done in this country without money and influence, two things the "worker bee" doesn't have. The whole little guy taking on the big guy is a Hollywood construct, it isn't real. That is not negativity, that is being aware of reality.

When you discourage others - sm

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From making positive changes and give them no hope, and continue to work the job yourself, you are rolling over and consenting to be treated like garbage. Personally I have had steady work forever, I am not complaining. I do my shift and go on with my life..My theory was simply, if you come on here and complain and moan every day, like I see, you need to make a change, you can try and take on the system or you need to change your job. Because going through life complaining stinks, plain and simple..And if you dont try, nothing will change. And if you do try, you may fall on your face, but at least you made an effort. I believe in controlling my own destiny, always have, always will.

You - are

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so wrong. If it wasn't for the little guy, many, many things would not exist. The reason this country has gotten as bad as it is, is because people want to sit and let everybody else do things and fight for things, because "it's too much work." Our country is filled with a bunch of sheep, and you are right, that is reality.

anon, you almost seem like a plant to discourage people - sm

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last I heard we had workers rights laws in this country. But never know till you try

Discourage - people

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from what? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

I get the same feeling - a plant. - Stranger things have happened. n/m

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Glad Im not the only paranoid one - sm

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People sued over the line counts and won against the "big bad company" Why is trying to keep our jobs any different. I would rather give it the old college try and fail then live in the old what if realm of the world..

I'mmmm baaaaaack! :) - Maverick

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Sounds like anon is a suit. I remember when we were trying to stop CBay taking over and I was literally fighting with an Indian on these posts. Remember the little Indian holding a hatchet symbol??? Moderator had to erase the posts because it got so bad with the arguing. You could tell it was a suit from CBay by the langage and sentence structure. Pretty obvious.

Whenever someone gets on and posts and another starts debating with you, then you are doing a great job and getting others to listen. The one debating is getting worried and trying to stop it.

Nobody will help themselves - Viper

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I like the stop working for 2-3 days, but then the whiners come on saying that won't do anything. I have to laugh because they just don't know that it will and won't try. If things pick up, that's when the time to do it is, but too many can't see that. Even if it were the several hundred that come her that did it, it would have an impact.

Its just hard to organize anything on open forum - sm

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I suggest we all make up an "Jane Doe" email account and start doing this via email rather then where the suits can see it..Kind of funny, anon was real vocal, until the thought of being a plant was put out there..

TKU Maverick my thoughts exactly - sm

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When they protest too much, makes me very suspicious..of course, now she/he/it will just change the name and try a different tactic..Bottom line, WE need to band together.

"collective minds" ?? We're not the Borg. - Des

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People don't have "collective minds." We're individuals with individual problems. Those who complain on this board might not be the majority, and each state is different. Since you cannot see in each of our minds and know what we need and think, then you should just get off your high-horse and step back into reality. YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF US!

Fine - you

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just keep taking what they dish out until you are out of a job totally and if you do have work, you will be making zip. I guess you would rather do that than try to make it better. Again, this is why we are in the boat we are in.

Like I said, the OP doesn't speak for all of us. - Des

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We're not all in the OP's boat, we're not all having those same problems. Believe or not, NOT ALL MTS ARE HAVING THESE PROBLEMS. Some are still doing reasonably well. Sure, it might not last, but there are those of us who have seen it coming and are already preparing to get out before the axe falls.

I love MT, but I'm not going down with the ship. If they don't want us anymore, fine. I'm halfway out the door already.

If you - love

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MT, why are you going to let them destroy it? It is my profession that the software companies came in and destroyed with India and VR. We need to take it back.

Sure, I love being an MT, but... - Des

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I love my home, my car, my electricity, my water, my phone, my cable, my internet, my food, and lastly, my health a whole heck of a lot more.

MT is a swinging pendulum. It's only a matter of time...

Wow your a defeatist - sm

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The general public has no idea about what goes on in this field..The upcoming medical errors that will kill people is enough for me to fight. Pride in my work is enough for me to fight..And just being a general pain in the butt to big business is a REAL reason to fight..I refuse to give in to them, this is a great profession that allows people to stay home, make some money and actually BE THERE to raise their kids properly..

Defeatist, no. Realist, yes. MT was good to me, until... - Des

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I was outsourced to MedQ. I fought and struggled to get back on my feet after that. I'm doing okay now, but it's only a matter of time, so I'm preparing myself.

Furthermore, I continue to see just horrible, lazy, CRITICAL errors by so-called experienced AMERICAN MTs. How's that different from Indian MTs making similar critical errors? If we American MTs want to keep our jobs, we have to be better than the Indian MTs, but as long as American MTs are making the same critical errors as Indian MTs who are doing it for a fraction of the cost, they're going to get the jobs... not us.

Besides, you're only fighting for MT because you want to continue to work from home. You should remember that if a job can be done remotely, it can be offshored. There's no job security in MT anymore. Fact.

Again, realist, not defeatist.

What??? You love your car??? Some MTs have - lost their cars, homes,

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and now trying to put food on the table. Obviously you have NO CLUE. I swear to you are a suit.

As I said, - Des

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I'm getting out BEFORE I lose my car, home, etc. Yes, I love my car. It's old but dependable. I don't have someone who can shop for me, buy me food, pay my utilities, etc., and I most certainly don't qualify for any type of welfare or assistance. I don't even get a tax refund, even though I'm paying thousands in each and every single year!

Furthermore, I do have a clue! In fact, I'm being smart enough to prepare for the axe when it falls. It might not, but it surely might.

It's you who doesn't have a clue. You can't see past your nose to recognize that others might just be a little bit ahead of you... or maybe you do see it and it just irks you to the bone that you failed to be prepared.

Actually, I am right behind ya. I will be done - with school this spring.

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Yes, I do agree the axe is going to fall. This job is great for attending school and I have completed already 2 years. Then I will be leaving this field and good for you to be prepared also. :P

Anon needs to have some empathy. - Maverick

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Clearly Anon has no idea what we are all gong through. Anon's states, "I highly suggest you all make up your collective minds and do SOMETHING".

I think Anon is at least right about that! ;)

Knowledge is power - sm

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The other thing we can do is question our doctors on who transcribes,,let them know there are alternative AMERICAN only companies. Then get on the social media sites and let people know what is going on, where their reports are being types, the potential for deadly errors, and have THEM question their doctors on why they allow this. If your uncomfortable using your name on these sites, then make up a fake, they do it all the time..

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