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More about Epic. Have the surgicenters gone to - PAMT

Posted: Dec 21, 2011

using Epic yet. Gee, doesnt sound promising for us in the near future does it. I work for a surgicenter and so far it is all straight transcription and not VR yet even. There are a tremendous amount of very difficult ESLs on this account.

Surgery Centers - Old MT

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I called a local surgery center in my area to see if they had any transcription openings, and she said they use all templates for their surgeries. I'm guessing it's not complicated stuff, but still...

INDIA WILL LOSE JOBS! - PAYBACK IS SO RICH!

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The answer is YES! Healthcare is mandated to use EMR by 2015. Right now there are government incentives to make this happen. This includes hospitals all the way down to the local doc-in-the-box office. Epic slaughtered our line counts at my hospital. I went from doing about 2500 lines a day down to about 100 lines per day. Epic uses point and click to place information into the permanent record.

I would keep my eyes open for ways to get out this profession. Maybe go back to school at night. Prepare yourself to be without an MT job because they will be gone, and our government did this to us.

As a side note, I am giddy with job now. Spheris (and the next takeover company and the one after that) took over our staff jobs at Yale-New Haven and then promptly sent the work over to our "friends" in India. Hey India, look at Yale's website now. They are hiring for Epic implementation in a big way. Now you're the ones about to lose your jobs and I couldn't be more delighted that you are going to get what you deserve.

That's giddy with joy (not job) - that India will lose jobs

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I was so excited, I made a typo. My bad.

Wow.... - empire lady

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I wouldn't put the blame on the Indians. They're trying to make a living just like us, and most likely had been living in conditions that we can't begin to imagine, unless you're living by a garbage dump in a cardboard/tin box. I hate the fact of off-shoring, but it's the politicians and corps who have done this. While I most definitely wish to get jobs back into this country where they belong, I wish no ill upon my fellow human beings on this earth. But, that's just me.

Okay, I suppose with the current temperament on this board, I will get bashed, and, frankly I really don't care, but I can't get on board with taking delight in seeing anyone go back into an abject poverty that, again, we can't even comprehend.

Blame the powers that be, government and corporations for giving and yanking jobs away from people, wherever they live in the world.

No, I agree, Empire. Indian MTs are colleagues just - as competitors here are. Would that

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all the passion and anger would be properly directed where it will do some good--through the voting booth to gain control over those trashing both our countries, and 100 others, for personal profit. And maybe against ourselves for not just allowing, but in many cases encouraging, the practices that have lead us to allow the decimation of the middle class.

As for EPIC and other technology changes, the enormous problem is that new jobs that do not require a college degree are not paying a middle class wage. It's not because we do not earn it, it's because they can get away with stuffing our earnings in their own pockets instead. Theoretical factors of supply and demand are completely failing to create equitable wages in an environment in which companies have grown beyond the ability of local labor (us and people like us in ALL countries) to control them.

Again--we need to vote our rights and your interests. There are over 300 million of us. We can cut business down to size, bring back the antitrust laws and enact other controls--if we will. We have been divided and conquered by being persuaded by leaders to attack each other instead of our problems. Way past time to wise up and get rid of those who have betrayed our trust many times over.

Agree with everything you said... - except

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''Indians are colleagues''?!---Whose colleagues? Certainly not mine. At the risk of political incorrectness, it is the height of lunacy to embrace people who not only are driving wages down for my true colleagues, American MTs/QAs, but also get the most basic and therefore most lucrative (producion-wise) work. No, my sympathies are with my American colleagues. Otherwise, your post is spot-on.

Except, our problem is global. And what's the difference between - competing with someone in

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(insert any location in U.S. that suits), who works part time for play money and who can afford to keep working no matter how far rates drop, and an MT in India supporting her family on her earnings? Answer: The former is driving our wages down at least as much as the latter. Many institutions insist on keeping work onshore, but rates keep plummeting nonetheless.

The fact is, many industries have become too powerful to rein in--around the planet--and lower-level workers in hundreds of jobs in many industries in hundreds of regions around the planet are experiencing the same sliced and diced wages we are, even as production, and thus profits, skyrockets.

That's why my sympathies are also with hardworking fellow MTs in India--because they're in the same when-you-drown-there-are-plenty-of-others-to-take-your-place boat. Some there only use MT as a stepping stone to better, but those who can't do that are in trouble just like us. Many, of course, work for the same companies we do.

As for the frivolous players onshore, whose availability is a big factor in our falling wages, I understand them and agree they have a right to exist and to work for spending binges at Pottery Barn. But the reality is, even if they're not that dependable, they're a weapon that can be and is used against anyone who tries to insist, for instance, that they won't transcribe reports put through for "editing" at editing line rates. Don't like it? Don't let the door hit you on the way out. There're plenty who will.

I am not the primary wage earner here, but if I dont work - we dont eat, replace broken SN

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appliances, help our children financially when they are in dire straits, etc. I may not be the primary but I am a necessary secondary income provider.

agreed, well said - nm

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Yept, but now they are starting to hire for us to - Still happy

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There was an ad the other day hiring MT data personel. You follow behind the doctor and physician asst and you enter all the info (basically point and click).

With scribes making $9 per hour, what do you think - LeftBrained

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What do you think an MT data person would make? My guess would be somewhere in the $9 per hour range, just like the scribes.

Jobs in India lost? - caseyatbat16

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Those jobs taken from Americans (who demanded so much more money/benefits than any workers in India doing comparable work)were sent to India by American companies wanting (and needing) to cut down on overhead (wages/benefits in particular). Don't blame the workers in India. They didn't steal American's jobs. They are working for a fraction of the wages/benefits that would otherwise be paid to Americans and happy to be working. The UAW of the US almost ruined the American automotive industry with their constant demands for more wages, benefits, less hours, etc. It got so bad that UAW workers were knocking down over $30/hr. and bragging in beerjoints that they weren't even completely assemblying automobiles. I know. I bought two new ones. The 1973 Gremlin had incompletely installed upholstery in the rear with the screws just lying there on the floor - obviously just thrown in. The 1977 Ford F-150 had the wrong speedometer gear installed in the transmission which cost me an expensive speeding ticket plus there were no engine mounts installed on the left side. I complained to the salesman that the engine raised up when revved and he said that was normal. I was naive enough to believe him. It cost me to have the engine mounts installed.
Millions of workers throughout the world get by on far less than that demanded by American workers. Could it be that for far too long Americans have behaved like spoiled, rotten brats?

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