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Mandatory training without pay - Really? - Lucy
Posted: Jun 03, 2010
Just informed that I have to take MANDATORY HIPAA training without pay because I can take it "anytime on my OWN time!" LOL!!! The course is 45 minutes long! It is not enough that we have to learn account specifics "on our own time", read the constant silly e-mails "on our own time", but now we have to do mandatory training "on our own time." Oh, yeah - and we have to pass the class with a test at the end too! I feel like I am in a volunteer job! Hmmmm, I wonder if 9 to 5 office staff have to read their company e-mails and take mandatory classes and tests outside of work hours . . . ?
I worked in-house and the boss tried telling us we had to - Read work-related emails, etc., BEFORE our shift
[ In Reply To ..]Yeah, I emailed her back and informed her that this was essentially telling us that, since we were doing it "before the start of our shift," that would mean without pay and our personal time, and I didn't think it was wise to put that into an email...After all, that would be *cough, cough* "illegal," and acted like I was helping her to cover her own backside.
About 10 minutes later, all of the MTs received a very convenient email saying that isn't QUITE what she meant, that we should read these at the start of our shifts before beginning to transcribe and, of course, we would be paid for it.
Yeah, SUREEEEEE that's what she meant. *eye roll*
These buffoons, always trying to get something free out of us, really irritate me, lol!
I don't know if that would work in your case (probably not since it's an MTSO), but it did feel good getting that one little victory from the supervisor I had. Too bad we can't challenge them and win more.
Where I work, training is paid at our base hourly - k
[ In Reply To ..]rate we are paid for vacation -- so I would get $13 an hour. They usually tell us that we will be paid for xx minutes, 45 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc. Just like overtime, it is illegal to require "work" off the clock.
I agree! - Lucy
[ In Reply To ..]I put in a lot of time "off the clock" already! I think 45 minutes and taking a test is a bit over the top, especially since they say it is mandatory. The e-mail made it sound like I should be totally grateful since I could do it at my convenience, but before June 15th! I wonder if the offshores have to do it on their own time too - very interesting!
E-mail on-site - Anonymous
[ In Reply To ..]I work on site and always get to the office a few minutes before the start of my shift to read my e-mail on my own time and get organized for the day, otherwise it cuts into my production. I never thought about it being illegal, it just gives me a few minutes to get my head together first thing in the morning.
Totally different though if you're doing it voluntarily - I did the same thing
[ In Reply To ..]Yeah, I do that too, for my own peace of mind and by choice. Pour some coffee, glance through and sort emails, look at the cue to see how much is dictated and ready to go while I have my coffee. But that's just to let me ease into the pace of the day, like what you do. But when they tell us we have to do it on our own time, that's a horse of an entirely different color. They tried convincing us that taking the HIPAA tests, OSHA tests, ad nauseaum, on our own time was to our benefit too, but we all know that's just their special little way of trying to get around paying us for what adds up to a considerable amount of time at the end of the year, if you think about it. Each one of those tests can take up to an hour by themselves, then factor in the time if everyday you're forced to do your emails, scheduling, etc., on your own time. Multiply that by number of employees and that's a serious chunk of cash they save themselves at the end of the year!
Mandatory Training w/o pay - Rachel
[ In Reply To ..]I just received the same email from my boss about this. I do believe by federal law anything mandatory (training, meetings, etc) MUST be paid by the employer. I am actually going to email my boss about that now as my time is valuable and I can't just be expected to do things (mandatory) without pay. Wonder if we work for the same company?! lol
Mandatory training - 15+ exp
[ In Reply To ..]Same email. This is the one that broke the camels back. I just took a paid Hipaa class 2 months ago for a different employer and have a certificate. Not good enough for them! Just lost another employee here. Can't print what my husband said.......
Mandatory training without pay - Rachel
[ In Reply To ..]Wonder if anyone else in the company is going to question it. Sorry to hear that you may leave over this, but I don't blame you. There are a lot of things about this company that bother me, but with 5 kids, staying home is the only option I have and some money is better than no money. I can't believe the small amount of pay we get for edit lines either! I am lucky to clear $10 and hour. I work for a private psychologist and I get paid $3 per page (which amounts to about $20 an hour). Wish she did more than part-time work or I'd do her work only. :)
Hipaa training - 15+ exp
[ In Reply To ..]This class even included the new HITECH act! An I am/was an employee, so it should be paid per DOL.
HIPAA - Anonymous
[ In Reply To ..]You should definitely be given credit for your HIPAA class and should not have to take it a second time. The information does not change that quickly and the rules and guidelines are the same everywhere you go. My employers have always honored classes that I've taken elsewhere. We've always gotten paid for mandatory training or department meetings, anything else we do like college classes during working hours are on our own and we are expected to make up that time. Sorry you're going through this, it would make me angry too.
Training without pay nothing new - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Up until a few months ago, I kept a second job at a hospital in a clinical field on a p.r.n. scheduled. We had to have all of our certifications up to date for our department, and we were not paid to get them done. Ex: Most departments require CPR. Some with ACLS and PALS. They will not pay you for the time spent doing these. They will let you take them for free in training and education, but you do not clock in. I would have to drive to a different site to get TB testing, mask fitting. This also was an unpaid thing. This was for every job title.
You know, my sister-in-law is a teacher, and she is having to spend a lot of time for recertification this summer that she is having to pay for through a college, or she cannot teach. This kind of stuff happens in all fields. Just one of those things.
Thank you all I no longer feel like grinch!!! - Whatyagunnado
[ In Reply To ..]We used to get paid for time to read company e-mails, training, etc., then things changed!! Oh well.
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