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horrible dictators - at what point do you give up trying to understand
Posted: Jan 11, 2014it's not just foreigners. :p
Guess I meant to say - at what point
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do you stop trying to be perfect and understand - and correct - everything the doctors and VR spit out? A good deal of it invariably comes out as nonsense. :p
Yes, certainly do need that paycheck, and I applaud everyone who does this work.
SR is a robot - OTOH...
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sometimes docs let their dictation pile up and just talklikethistogetitcaughtup.
some docs think it's "smart" to talklikethisbecauseitshowshowclevertheyare
or i'mbusyandwanttogetoutoftheofficesosoi'lldictatebetweenexamrooms
oh, would that medical schools have a 1-day class--a 1-HOUR class--dictation--where they'd have to listen to themselves.
Whytheytalklikethat - sm
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They don't do that because they let things pile up, because they think it sounds smart, or because they want to annoy you.
They start doing it because for one or another very valid reasons that are not their fault, they are overwhelmed by their patient loads, and because they learn to do it from observation of other physicians. They are, in fact, "trained" to do it that way.
They continue doing it because there ARE MTs who can understand it.
Worst dictators - Alice
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I agree with those who say that these dictators have been poorly taught. Many of the worst are not ESL, just don't seem to know better or don't care, or maybe they are paying by the minute and want to save money by fast talking? They generally don't seem to like to ask for help or instruction, but sit next to each other and learn by observation. If no one ever "corrects" them, how do they know that their methods are causing us trouble?
I used to feel bad about having to leave blanks, but no more. I also applaud any MT or QA who can understand what these bad dictators are saying, but I gave up on being perfect. I do listen at least 3 times and adjust speed and any other control available for the specific platform/software in use. AFter that, I can't guess, so I have to blank it. So, that's how it will be for now. I don't get paid for my time. I actually look forward to really good VR, which can sometimes give clues on what is being said when I can't figure it out on my own. I'm currently working on a "new" account which is straight typing, but will go to VR someday (and then probably will be shipped offshore). Again, some of the worst are totally English-speaking and I do not make excuses for them. They give me garbage and they end up with blanks, as I conclude that's what they want. I feel that it is totally appropriate for them to reap what they sow, and my responsibility only goes so far. I feel bad that other MTs and QA strain to fill in the blanks, as they are simply enabling the bad dictators to continue the same.
YES! Some of the worst offenders are the English docs - SM
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It has been my experience they are the speed talkers and mumblers. I had one that would speak clear as day at certain points is the dictation, but slur his words and mumble through the rest of it...hated typing him.
I gave up listening 3 times to bad crap since SM - Kitty
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I'm only paid to listen once and type once. I think far too many docs or dictators think they are too good to be even doing dictation bec. they have a few letters behind their names, that they're somehow above it, not considering our situation.
Yes, some sound drunk as a skunk - or heavily medicated. :p
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:p
OMG, funny and oh so true - frustrated
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this is the BEST thing I have read all year
or each other - pamt
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I've often said I would love for residents to have to listen to each others dictation just once and try to transcribe it. And I think some kind of dictation instruction would be great for med students.
There is one med school professor who does that (sm) - Rose
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He was one of my clients in the 80s. He included dictation in his class, had them dictate on a case and then exchange tapes to transcribe another students dictation. He said he has never seen so many irritated people in one room before.
Deciphering difficult dictation and - correcting ASR
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Is what MTs do. Difficult dictation is a reality of this job and if ASR was perfect they wouldn't need us. I agree sometimes it can be frustrating, but like the above poster said, you will be dealing with it until you either quit or retire.
I had a doc dictate like Donald Duck once. I've also - MTdone
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had docs "compete" to see how fast they could talk. I only know this because they were in the room dictating at the same time and I heard them discuss this. Jerks.
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