A community of 30,000 US Transcriptionist serving Medical Transcription Industry
Request to the Moderator - MT
Posted: Jun 29, 2012
Moderator, I am fortunate enough to be a thriving MT and I would like to be able to hold conversations with my colleagues. We don't have coworkers so this board is the closest thing to it and I would like to be able to discuss our advantages, disadvantages, compensation, etc., with the closest I'll come to a coworker without being abused. I don't want to be called insensitive, a liar, a suit, etc., just because I am still a successful MT and would like to share it. There are obviously many, many MTs who are miserable and feel that we are being insensitive any time we share our successes and I'm SICK OF IT! Can we PLEASE have our own board where we can discuss our advantages in an adult manner? You can name the board, Happy MTs, and then we can "brag" to our heart's desire without the abuse that comes with it on the Main Board. The negativeness is so discouraging to people and just because some are having a hard time, doesn't mean this whole profession is going down the tubes. Sure it's decreasing, but there are still plenty of jobs out there for us to be successful.
why don't you just get your own web page? - me
[ In Reply To ..]You can call it "MT living in delusion"
Delusional is very offensive, in my opinion. - Ortho Pro
[ In Reply To ..]I don't usually get involved in this topic on this board, but I found "MT living in delusion" to be quite offensive. I am a very successful MT and have been lucky enough to have had the same accounts for 11 years. I have a lot of sympathy for those of you who are being taken advantage in this industry, but there are so many variables as to what makes an MT successful or not. You can't call us delusional. There is a market within the private practices who are too small for these big companies. I do a lot of work comp and med-legal reports which pay very well. I am an independent contractor, and I set my rate, not the other way around. For now, I am doing very well and will roll with it until it comes to an end (maybe it won't). I will cross that bridge when I get to it, but I am certainly NOT delusional.
I wish you well and hope things turn around for you, really.
Ortho Pro - On site MT
[ In Reply To ..]Where I live, there are no private practices, all our providers (inpatient and outpatient) are under the umbrella of 2 large entities who will be merging into one in a view months. MTs here work for one or the other or for an MTSO. I'm "successful" and doing well and also "rolling with it", but I also know how others are being treated. I'm not going to do as you have done and imply that it is somehow their fault or that their skills are lacking because of all the changes that have occurred. It is fine to be an independent contractor, but you are also paying your own insurance and taxes; factor that into your compensation and then come back and tell us how well you are doing. Tell us how many extra hours you work to make turnaround time, and how many times you are called during unscheduled work time with special requests from your employer. What happens when your doctors go on vacation? Do you always have work? You don't know everyone's circumstances, living situations or job opportunites within their community, so don't blame it on knowledge or skill level. There is some people who do nothing but complain on this board, but there are many who are scared for their futures and express genuine concern. It is fine to be doing well, but quite another to make others feel inferior.
Additional note - On site MT
[ In Reply To ..]Sorry for the typos and grammar errors in my post, it's very early in the a.m. and I haven't had my coffee!
On Site MT - Ortho Pro
[ In Reply To ..]I think you need to read my post again. I, in no way, implied I was superior. I agree with you, as I said in my post, the success of an MT has many variables. I happen to live in a large city with plenty of local work, you do not (variable). All I was saying is there are some that are doing well, and we are not delusional. Listen, I have no issue with MTs venting on here, and I'm happy they have a place to vent, but they shouldn't attack every happy MT on here and imply we are full of it or living in a fantasy world. I was clearly NOT rubbing it in anyone's face if you read my post again. Happy MTs exist and deserve to have a say as well. That is all.
To ortho pro - On site MT
[ In Reply To ..]I did read your post again, thanks for pointing that out. People might be jealous if they knew my situation as well. I'm thankful and know that I am lucky to have a good employer, but I also know that my situation could change in a heartbeat. We all need to realize that there is no such thing as "job security" any more, and even an IC can lose accounts if their employer finds themselves in a financial crunch and goes looking for someone who is willing to work for less. My situation shows that we're all unique. It would be impossible for me to pick up small local accounts on the side, and if you lived here and tried to make it as an IC it would never happen, it has nothing to do with skills. I think that is what people took offense to; it seems to be assumed by some that people who currently find themselves in less than ideal situations did something to bring it about. Times have changed, and good MT jobs are not falling off the trees as they were 5 or 10 years ago. I'm sure many people would love to change their situation given the opportunity. The suggestion to start an exclusive board for "happy, successful MTs" only added fuel to the fire. I'm sorry that I misunderstood the intent of your message.
OnSiteMT, you would probably like such a board where - you could discuss the realities
[ In Reply To ..]of this field without all the nastiness and, frankly, despair. We all have problems we face to some degree and many do have successes and satisfactions, it's just that they can't be discussed among "friends" who gather here. Every attempt to begin honest, intelligent discussion among people who are not driven by unhappiness and anger inevitably either devolves into discussions of having to leave the field, attacks on employers, attacks on each other, or is abandoned.
This is a MT forum, but simple discussion of working in this field by MTs is all but impossible.
Anger gets more 'space' because it's easier to stay angry than move on - Angry people live their lives angry
[ In Reply To ..]Anger takes up much more space than anything else because angry people live to be angry. It's like weeds in a vegetable garden. They take up the space, nutrients, water, and eventually take over the garden. I believe that's what has happened.
Love this analogy (NM) - And very true
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I would love to have a board where - msmt
[ In Reply To ..]we help each other and not attack each other, call us suits or MTSOs if we like our job. I hate that other people do not have a good job to make them feel good. I do wish though that there was a board for good thoughts and helpfulness. It is okay for the ones that have problems to voice them, but it kind of gets everybody down when it happens all the time. Hope things get better for everyone.
well then it's obvious what we need is - an IC board
[ In Reply To ..]How about it moderator?
Yes, an IC board would be great - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I would love an IC board! Fabulous idea.
Say what? - seriously
[ In Reply To ..]What about those of us who are happy and EMPLOYEES? We exist too. And we'd also love the chance to talk about the good things about our jobs, even if it's just in conversational manner and nothing educational or tips or anything like that. I'd like to come on here and say, "man I'm swamped today" and not have that turned into a stoning because I was insensitive. My feelings aren't based on others reactions to them. I just want to be able to shed the nasty negativity w/o being told to go elsewhere to do it.
okay, deal but here's the caveat - sm
[ In Reply To ..]You have to say where you work. None of this "I love my company but I'm not telling what it is."
um - yeah okay
[ In Reply To ..]Who died and made you hall monitor? LOL! I pretty much think we can share whatever information we want to, don't you?
I've also named my company on here several times, but it hasn't seemed to lower the negativity level, so what is it you perceive to be gained by knowing where I work?
That would be just plain stupid - nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
why is that stupid? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]why is it stupid to tell us where you are so happy? Sometimes I look at the job seekers board but how can I sort through all those MTSOs without some input from you. Are we going to help each other or not?
one man's trash - is anothers treasure
[ In Reply To ..]But don't you see? Me loving MY job doesn't mean YOU would love MY job.
I work at M*modal and love it. I also have a part time job with Transform and love it. Is it perfect? Heck no! But I make enough money (I'm self-supporting, self-insuring, single and happy about all that too).
Some people are just glass half full people and even when life hands them the proverbial lemons, they don't b*tch and complain about how much they hate lemons or that lemons are citrusy, or that lemons are yellow, they really do take the lemons and find what works for them. For some it's lemonade, for others it's lemondrops (yummm).
How did I find companies I enjoy working for? Lots of trial and error. Lots of sometimes working 3 jobs to see if the new job is going to fit right. I won't work for 3-4 cpl for VR. I won't work for less than 8 cpl (but thankfully make more). If the only choices I end up with some day are those, then that's when I hang up the keyboard and make something else work for me!
So get out there and find your prince! And if you have SPECIFIC questions about a company, I'm sure anyone on here would be willing to share.
:) Maybe it could be called the "Glass Half Full" board. - Good description of the people who need one. NM
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I agree, not just an IC board, but - msmt
[ In Reply To ..]a board for happy MTs, no matter whether they are IC or employees. I am a happy employee and an IC. I have a parttime job with a friend that has had a local company for more than 20 years because I met her through my first job when she did just our overflow and it was just her. Now she has several employees, which are ICs. I am so happy for her doing so well. It's a good thing she has kept it local or she would be up a creek without a paddle.
ICs and employees who are earning money and - at least somewhat interested in their
[ In Reply To ..]work and industry have far more in common than not. The common denominator we need is a professional attitude toward work we have no interest in leaving. Plus, discussing a search for a new client and being summarily shifted to a hospital across the country where everyone seems to be falling off their horses would just enlarge the range of experience and add to the fun. :)
Can you honestly sit here and say that "it has nothing to do with skills"? - If Only There Were Requirements
[ In Reply To ..]I can't believe that anyone could sit there and say, "it has nothing to do with skills."
You could truthfully say that some highly-skilled MTs have been treated badly by MTSOs. There are also people who never should have put all their eggs in the MT basket, because they have very poor English grammar, spelling, etc. It would be like any of us getting into a career where one of the important ingredients is missing. I have no skills in [fill in the blank], so if I went to get a job doing that, I would be laughed out. MT is different. Anyone can call themselves an MT, whether they have the skills to do it or not. That's probably the main problem that we face. If there were requirements before you could put "MT" behind your name, our income would be higher and our employment situation would be better.
Just another example of the rampant defensiveness - On this forum towards anyone successful
[ In Reply To ..]I still maintain there needs to be a "Disgruntled MTs" board so they can have their own location to indulge in all of the negativity they wish to their hearts' content. Perhaps if they had their own board on this site, they could be warned and then banned when they start with the "liar," "suit," "cheerleader", ad nauseum on other threads.
I've really never seen such bad behavior among adults on a website, and that's saying something.
Wow - I didn't get any of what you wrote from reading her post - Even read it twice - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I don't know where you got any of what you wrote. I read nothing of that in her post (both times I read it). She even said she has a lot of sympathy for those who are being taken advantage of. No where in the post did I ready anything even close to her thinking others are inferior to her. Maybe you were upset that she thought being called delusional is offensive. Not sure, but reading your post its so off about what she wrote.
Okay - disregard my post. I should have put in a code so I could - delete it
[ In Reply To ..]I read your reply to the poster after I posted. Sorry, guess I should start reading the board from the bottom up. LOL
Therein lies the rub as I see it, OrthoPro. sm - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Bravo for you, OrthoPro. First, on being successful. Second, on actually stating you have your own accounts.
See, it gets confusing here when some say they are very successful, yet fail to mention they have their own accounts. I'm afraid many posters here just assume the happy posters are working for huge MTSOs. Sometimes they are, but quite often they are not. That leaves those of us working for the 2 biggest MTSOs really wondering what you are doing differently.
Since you basically control your own destiny, you are bound to be happier than those under the thumb of unscrupulous MTSOs. JMO, and I used to be an IC years ago.
My own accounts is my variable... - Ortho Pro
[ In Reply To ..]Of course I stated I have my accounts, which would be my "variable." I wasn't saying it to rub it in anyone's face, just that it is my variable. I did work for a large national MTSO briefly, and I get why you are all so angry. Why are you all attacking me for telling my situation and maybe giving those in larger cities some options to look into? I'm sorry if you feel I'm rubbing it in your face; that was not my intent. I did not come on to a post of an unhappy MT and say ha ha, look how much $$ I make, so please stop implying that.
OrthoPro - Therein Lies the Rub
[ In Reply To ..]Not sure whether you were responding to me or not. Just clarifying here that I most certainly was not attacking you, but applauded you and appreciated the fact that you posted that you had your own accounts.
For other posters in this thread.
No, I am not miserable. I love medical transcription, but it just does not pay for me anymore. The key word being transcription. Hate editing, although I go with the flow. I'm retiring soon, so not looking to go elsewhere or to go back to school. Have already been a paralegal and an insurance adjuster. Time for my family and myself now. Just disgusted with the numerous paycuts I have endured. No, I will not dumb down my work to make more money. Have too much pride for that.
Thanks for clarifying your intent, Anon. - Ortho Pro
[ In Reply To ..]Yes, Anon. I was replying to your "therein lies the rub in" post. I completely read it incorrectly, and I apologize. I think the title of your post quoted above gave off a tone opposite of how you meant it. I took it as stating I had my accounts was rubbing it in...lol. I'm sorry for going into a defensive mode for no reason :) All I wanted to do here was say not all happy MTs are delusional, as there are too many variables here to make that claim.
AMEN! - PassingThru
[ In Reply To ..]Actually, I don't take that other post seriously.
There is no way "happy MTs" will just "brag" to each other because that won't suit their needs. Most of the "happy MTs" on here are really MTSOs and school owners who need stooges to continue slaving away and/or $igning up for their "classes." So they need to communicate their lies to US, not "each other."
Or MT living with success - Snark vs snark
[ In Reply To ..]Obviously you're one of the..."less than successful" MTs ;-)
Or... - Alternatively
[ In Reply To ..]Or it could be a reader who is sick and tired of reading that bragadocious crap on here and (appropriately) recognizes that it really belongs elsewhere, as on a personal blog.
If it's true, it's a fact, and not bragging, and I'm a reader who wants to hear it - nm
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*IF* it's true... - Haha
[ In Reply To ..]Anyone can come on here and make all kinds of claims. You have no way of verifying them, so you have NO way of knowing that it's true.
Furthermore, there is NOTHING positive about a braggadocio:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/braggadocio
On a quiet subforum, it'd just be work chat. No need - to brag or come looking for braggadocio. NM
[ In Reply To ..]This sort of discussion is why a safe place is needed. A forum like this would be open to everyone working as an MT, just limited as to range of discussion to cut out the attacks and negativity. Problems are real, and we all have them, but discussion would be about ways to deal with positively with work issues.
Someone pointed out that anger is catching. So is the simple enjoyment of chatting with others who have their work in common, no matter how different their lives in other ways. We could all of us use this balancing element, including you, right?
yes please! - Unsuccessful
[ In Reply To ..]then I won't have to be told every day what a loser I am!
Me too! - FormerlyHighlySuccessfulMT
[ In Reply To ..]When I think back on my former pay scale, it makes me want to cry!
$51,000+ in my first "year" (actually about 6 months) as an MTSO. And that was way back in 1990.... Of course the pay just went up from there. We did ZERO advertising; all new clients were acquired via word of mouth.
The stress of being self-employed finally got to me, so eventually I went back to in-house work in a teaching hospital. Of the 60 MTs in the department, I was the top producer and consistently earned maximum cash bonuses. In '07 I made $56,000+, and that was with FULL (EXCELLENT) benefits. Of course, they had to do away with the incentive!
In '10 I made $36,000. In '11 I made $19,000.
The writing is on the wall! Thanks to the triple whammy of VR, offshoring, and technology, this "profession"
Now I'm back in school, getting the hell out of MT! I am making straight A's (AND the highest scores in several classes) in a relatively tough curriculum.
The only "losers" are the people on this board who hurl insults at people whom they have never met and know NOTHING about.
Except that nobody here threw ANY insults. This is exactly - why some would love a designated board. NM
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*Yawn* - FormerlyHighlySuccessfulMT
[ In Reply To ..]Where did I -- or anyone else for that matter -- mention THIS particular thread?
ANYONE who has spent even a modicum of time on this board KNOWS how it is around here. "If you're not doing well as an MT, you are:
-- lazy
-- stupid
-- illiterate
-- unprofessional
-- etc. (fill in the blank)"
Based on what I've read here, a LOT of folks are SICK of it!! As long as it continues, I will continue to complain about it.
Yawn back - MT
[ In Reply To ..]Anyone who has spent even a modicum of time on this board KNOWS how it is around here. "If you are doing well as an MT, you are:
-a suit
-delusional
-lying
-living in a fantasy world
-etc. (fill in the blank)"
Based on what I've read here, a LOT of folks are SICK of it!! As long as it continues, I will continue to complain about it!
I disagree - Okay MT - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I disagree with your post:
I am doing well. Yes, I used to make more, but I'm doing well enough to pay the bills and have a little extra. Probably doing better than a lot of other MTs. But in no way am I a suit, delusions, liar or living in a fantasy world. I have MT friends that are doing very well. If you think they are living in a fantasy world I'd be very glad to joint that fantasy world. However, you don't know them or their bank accounts so you don't know really know, do you?
So I disagree with you. There are plenty of MTs doing very well and they are none of what you wrote.
Moderator, why don't you add a board that would be of more use - such as a food board
[ In Reply To ..]It has been requested on many different occasions, a board where we can share recipes, etc. As soon as you had a complaint about the word games, you created a game board right away, why are the many past requests for a food board ignored. Actually the faith board and the prayer requests could be combined into on, as they are really the same thing. I think many people would agree that a board to share recipes and cooking tips, ect., would be a great addition.
And you wonder why our industry is failing - transitioning MT
[ In Reply To ..]I've been in this industry, and on this board,long enough to remember when transcription was a positive and thriving industry with people that loved their job and were grateful to be able to work from home to raise their kids.
While I am not happy with my job disappearing to VR, I come here for some moral support. More and more, I dread coming to this board because any positivity is met with unrestrained contempt and verbal lashings.
I've just finished my RHIT/AS HIT degree so I will be leaving the MT field soon. My suggestion to those that just want to complain is that you find some happiness and consider leaving too.
It's your choice, live with your current situation or leave it. But let those of us that still enjoy our jobs or are choosing to leave on a high note alone.
To those who are happy, highly successful MTs... - (please see message)
[ In Reply To ..]....I'm curious to know whether you have voice recognition reports that you have to edit or just straight typing/transcribing and whether you are paid an hourly wage or by the line. In my experience, those things make a huge difference.
Not trying to be snippy here. If you do VR editing (or mostly editing) AND are paid by the line and are still happy and successful, then I'd love for some of you to show that moral support and share your positivity tips--what are some things you do differently than those who are barely getting by, which might be helpful?
If you're extremely happy with your job in spite of being paid roughly 4 cpl for editing very poor-quality VR reports, then my hat's off to you. I sure wish I could say the same!
If you're paid a generous hourly wage, possibly with a production bonus, and your facility only does straight transcription, then we're comparing apples to oranges when we try reasoning with each other. I've done both, and, at first, I figured it would be very close to the same thing. Boy, was I naive!
We all should walk a mile in someone else's shoes before we judge. I don't see anything wrong with disagreeing with each other if it doesn't resort to petty name-calling or saying that a poster who disagrees with us should "get off the board."
In response - transitioning MT
[ In Reply To ..]In answer to your question: In 24 years, I have "seen it all." I started out with a small account, that grew huge and required four of us to meet deadlines, so I became a small MTSO/IC with subcontractors. I've also kept many small accounts that I do on my own over the years.
The powers that be at the medical corporation I contract with are undergoing a VR transition. I have been asked to stay on as editor, for $2.00 per report regardless of the length. I cannot afford to live on this wage, and I cannot expect my subcontractors to either, so I will probably pass.
With regards to VR editing, when they can actually get the docs to do it, I can power through it very quickly, probably around 500-650 lph. It helps to be very familiar with the docs.
I am not happy with my situation, but I have run the emotional gamut this past year. I am simply seeing it through the end. I figure you can't fight change, but you can try to improve your situation. That is why I went to college to get a degree.
I am disheartened by what has happened to our industry. It is a sad state of affairs when those of us that had pride in the preservation of the patient record give up caring.
Thanks for listening.
It really does no good - HappyJoy
[ In Reply To ..]I've posted on here about my situation and it was met with my being called a liar, and some juvenile poster blipping every response. No one wants to share under those circumstances. I'm happy. I won't take a job (or keep a job) where they are only willing to pay me 4 cpl for VR. I do about 40% VR right now and 60% straight type. I've shared tips on how to make VR work for you. But I won't post only to have someone thumb their nose at me for doing so.
I've only been paid by the hour for one job and that was three decades ago. And when I joined the department, the MTs told me to slow down because then they would be expected to produce more.
I agree being told to get off the board (from any direction) is wrong. But because I like my job and am happy doing it, I shouldn't have to wade through a bunch of snippy comments just to try and have a professional dialogue.
Both of them? - NM
[ In Reply To ..]NM
Kudos - thankful
[ In Reply To ..]Congratulations! I enjoy being an MT and have for over 10+ years. I have only worked at home with MTSOs, only 3, and then only 1 I did not like... and left. I do both VR and straight typing, mostly VR by choice as it is easier on my fingers and I make as much if not more $ doing so. I have become much more adept at my keyboard use and shortcuts... that is how I do it. I do not do VR for 4 cents a line and would never.
To the above poster... I commend you on your success and I too have considered obtaining an RHIT.
And, no, I will not share the company I work for... for the most part because I would not wish the negativeness on this board on my side of the fence.
I agree...nm - Diana
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A job - oldone
[ In Reply To ..]If everyone who absolutely hates being an MT and are w/o money (yes I have worked where I made almost nothing and gone elsewhere), would get another job in another field, where they perceive they will happy, would just go ahead and do that, then the new people on here who have worked so hard to become an MT would have job openings and would not have to read the constant negative posts. No I am not new and I will get out if I ever hate being an MT...no, wait, I can retire!!!! but I'm not gonna/can't until late 60s because I would be bored, bored, bored, and poor, poor, poor. I can't live on Social Security, even in my poor little state. I am going to be blasted for this reply. Of course I will. I think some people just wait around to pop some newbies balloon and grouse about us oldies.
It was 105 here today 100% humidity with a heat index of 110. I am as grouchy as anyone will every "see" me and I still like being an MT and really don't want to leave the field. I am not lording it over anyone either. So there! Also, I purposely did not edit myself, check my spelling, etc., because that is another thing I can be blasted for and bring it on! It will be hotter tomorrow and even hotter Sunday. I will be really a mess then and may actually start cursing...I love being a little instigator.
instigator? No. - (see message)
[ In Reply To ..]I'd classify you more as ignorant. You have no idea what it's like out there, clearly. And you couldn't care less. As long as you're safe and sound in your little bubble, you're happy. Right?
my bubble - oldone
[ In Reply To ..]Judge not...I am far from ignorant. Indeed, I seem to at least still have a good heart and a strong work ethic. I have paid my dues dearie. Work 40 years and then call me ignorant.
I'd also love a place for MT/ME discussion free from - disruptions from flaming and whining. Lack
[ In Reply To ..]of such a board is the biggest failing of this, even as it is, the largest and most successful of all industry forums. Some while ago I had a few coworkers tell me they dropped in once in a while and left quickly, repelled by the generally low tone. They basically regarded trying sift through to find good discussion here as a waste of time, and depressing to boot. There are other forums, names not included, with occasional good discussion but they lack the vitality and population of this community.
Wouldn't it be great if there was something here to entice people who want a place to simply discuss their work with colleagues to come participate? And, of course, a place for those of us who come but too often leave irritated and unsatisfied.
Please, Moderator! I've talked myself into thinking this would be a big plus too. A "Pros Board," perhaps, for discussion of work-related topics by skilled MT/MEs with a professional attitude and manner. "Happy MTs Board" would also work, as long as we're not actually required to be happy to participate. Maybe "Happy Enough Board"? :)
Don't you see-look in the mirror - MT
[ In Reply To ..]You do your share of whining and complaining too. You say this board is depressing, you call us "debbie downers," you imply that we have unprofessional attitudes and manners. You supposedly "happy" MTs spread as much negativity as those of us who are unhappy. Your hurtful comments sometimes drive me away from this board, which is what I suspect you want. You do not want us to be able to come here and find support in each other. But I keep coming back because I believe in us and need a place to vent. So continue on in your whining, you won't stop us, no matter what ugly names you call us, no matter how many insults you throw, we are not going away.
I confess I have told people who say they can't make - minimum wage to question their
[ In Reply To ..]own abilities, ALONG WITH the usual exploitation by employers. I did and do consider it a good deed for those who made the mistake of a lifetime entering this field, and those posts were not addressed to all those who, like me, are merely suffering from reduced incomes and grayed futures. We're all doing this for money, tho, and those of us who cannot support themselves at this desperately need to get a job that will. Every day delayed digs them deeper into a hole, emotionally as well as economically. The work isn't going to magically change, and the line rates aren't going to magically (and it'd take that) increase enough to help them.
But this thread is about maybe setting up a secondary board for the kind of discussion we would have seen 15 years ago on a forum like this. Under your complaints, you sound like a person who would appreciate participating in that discussion yourself. Angst can still be unloaded and sympathy delivered on the main and company boards, then chatting about work enjoyed on a calm, strictly-civil board. Wouldn't that be nice? Please ask for one.
I confess that I'm more interested in hearing from those who are successful - Success Is Contagious and The Opposite Is Also Tru
[ In Reply To ..]Personally, I enjoy conversations with successful people. Success is contagious. There is much to be gained hanging out with people who, just like everyone else, have challenges, but have met them successfully. We can all learn something. The opposite is also true. If you want to sit around and drag yourself and everyone else around you down, you'll find lots of company. Misery loves company. It doesn't help you move past a bad situation and into a good one though. The way I look at it, an occasional vent is probably healthy in most cases. If it goes on past 2-3 weeks, it's pathological. Get counseling. If we were meeting face to face, we wouldn't choose to hang out with people who were pathologically negative. Why should we do it here? There's no benefit to them or to us.
Yes, yes, yes! And this forum badly needs just that. - NM, NM, NM :)
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I can see your point, but - Love my job
[ In Reply To ..]Okay, I can see your point, wanting to discuss something without being called names. Fully understand that.
Not quite sure how to say this because I keep erasing and starting over, so if it comes out wrong, sorry. My questions is why would you want to "brag". To me it's gloating. Personally I think it's great you are doing well. I have no complaints with my situation, but I would never come on this board and "brag". There are so many MTs going through hard times. Either they just lost a job, have kids to feed and no money, just so many people having a hard time. I myself could not take part in gloating on this board how well I'm doing when I know so many others are hurting.
To me, I think if you want to come on and gloat you should know the ones hurting will probably lash out. Some probably feel they have been treated very unfairly and I know a lot would like to know how to do well in the profession they have spent so many years invested in.
I guess I just have a lot of empathy for others. I don't like to see anyone in a bad situation. That's all I'm saying. My parents taught me never to gloat about whatever I have. As for my financial situation, that is nobody's business but my own. Just think about all the people going through hard times. I just could not bring myself to "brag".
Love my job - On site MT
[ In Reply To ..]Thank you for your post. I'm waiting to hear the definition of a "successful" MT, is it because they have jobs? I'm happy and doing well, but much of it has been due to being in the right place at the right time and taking advantage of the opportunities that came my way, I call that luck. I don't like to see anyone in a bad situation either as I know it could easily be me. Those who gloat about their successes need to remember that this is a very unstable economy and people find themselves in difficult situations because they are victims of circumstance, not because they are lacking skills. I also don't like the idea of exclusivity that a separate board would create. We're supposed to help and support each other, not choose sides. I keep thinking of that movie Pollyanna where they played the "glad game," that's what I think of when I read the posts about the "Happy, Successful MT" board.
To "Love my job" and "on site MT".... - thank you (see message)
[ In Reply To ..]You have both expressed my feelings exactly. Thank you for these posts. I tried to express this yesterday by saying I thought it was a tad insensitive to post about being one of the last MTs who still has a good job (or words to that effect--don't remember exactly), and I just tried to say that we should all have a heart about posting that kind of thing, but I was told I should get the "heck" off this board for saying something like that. :-( I'm really tender-hearted, and I tried to post fairly respectfully (I thought), but I must not have expressed myself as well as you have. Good for you--I enjoy having people like you as friends in real life. :-) I really appreciate when people speak up for those who are down.
In response - MT
[ In Reply To ..]I am the original poster of this whole thread and I'm pretty sure I'm the one who told you to get the heck off the board. I have been doing MT for 11 years and I have been successful at it ever since I started. Is it luck? Maybe. Is it being in the right place at the right time? Maybe. Regardless of the situation, I don't sit around helpless, complaining about how bad things are. I lost my full-time job with benefits that I had for 10 years due to Epic and SR, but did I let that hold me back? No, I went and found another job. So many of you have this huge standard by which you perceive you need to have. Just because a job advertises for 7 cpl or 8 cpl or whatever, I don't just turn my nose up at it. I apply if it sounds like it's something that is interesting and if I get a response and the job has amazing doctors, I take it. So many of you think that 7 cpl or 8 cpl is beneath you when in fact you can make more per hour if the doctor is good than you will working for 10 or 11 or even 12 cpl if the doctors mumble. So many of you wonder why you get paid minimum wage because even at 12 cpl, if you can't understand the doctor or fly through a report, you aren't going to make any money...no matter how much you are getting per line. I never put my eggs into one basket with one company, never. Not even if it's a full-time gig because I can't take the chance of running out of work, I just can't. I hate coming on here every single day and seeing about what a sucky job this has become and how there is no way anyone can make more than minimum wage. There are more jobs out there than for these nationals who pay peanuts and I know because I've worked for many companies and never have I worked for the nationals. I've always been successful. Have I lost jobs? Yes, I have, and many of them, but I get right back at the job search. I want to be able to come on here and talk with my fellow "coworkers" and cheer each other on that we are having a successful career and maybe give some incentive to those of you who don't think it's possible. I want a separate board because we are perceived as "insensitive" if we even broach the subject that we are successful and I'm tired of it. I want to know that others are successful too and keep my hopes up high instead of into this panic that all of you insist on maintaining for everyone. Almost every job in the United States is not secure right now so I don't know why you think that those of us MTs who are successful aren't already on full alert knowing it could come to an end at any moment. We know this and don't need to be reminded by all you naysayers out there every single day or every single time someone mentions their success. It's sickening!!!!!!! I want to have a grown up discussion with people having the same success as me...not necessarily to brag, but to support each other and clearly, as is obvious with this post, others want it too. I will be posting a new thread to bring this back on top and hopefully the moderator will eventually fulfill the request and you all can keep on being slammed and "insensitive" all you want on your own board.
I'm the poster whose job was saved - amazed at the firestorm
[ In Reply To ..]All I wanted to do was share good news! I've spent three days reading all this, and I'm amazed. Maybe I was hoping someone would take a little hope from it that it's not all bad out there. Yeah, the "one of the last well paid MTs" was a little over the top and I see it may have been felt insensitive. I apologize for that. The message was supposed to be that there are still hospitals who have a lick of sense. And yes, we are going to VR, have in fact in the ER, which thankfully is not one of my accounts, and it will be a gradual transition. I'm lucky that I'm close to the age of retiring (five years or so) and hopefully I'll be able to adapt and hang on until then. This is a bit of a reprieve. Now look, you've made me go and negate my good news.
Saved job - On site MT
[ In Reply To ..]I didn't read your original post, so I don't know what was said, but I had the same experience. We outsourced for a time and then brought all of it back due to quality issues. VR didn't work very well for us so the MTs are still there, somebody up there likes me! I'm not going to get into the pay issue except to say that I'm thankful for what I have. I'm getting closer to retirement age too but may have to go earlier than planned depending on what happens, it's a roller coaster ride. Anyway, glad your employer made the right decision.
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