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Posting the board member's address - strange world we live in

Posted: Jun 22, 2010

This has been posted off and on for several days, and then the posts are taken down by the moderator. There is one still up from yesterday. It's interesting how angry some people are getting at these posts. How can someone not understand that it is not okay to rip workers off, to not give workers a living wage, or to give them less pay than they made 14 years ago?

I guess some people think it's okay that someone makes 20 times what the workers are making?

There have been ridiculous comments like--maybe he worked his way up from a bricklayer and he deserves the pay. Maybe someone who had been a bricklayer would have a conscience and know who deserves the real credit in a company.

Another comment about he has an MBA and other degrees. I have a bachelor's and 45 graduate credit hours. I cannot find a job in that field.

Someone made a comment on this board the other day about "MTs being stupid and picking the wrong profession. I should have gone to nursing school." I am getting a second bachelor's in nursing. Nurses' wages have been stagnant for years, and they get dumped on by everyone in the hospital. They are liable for mistakes, even if doctor wrote the order and pharmacist filled the prescription. For the knowledge and wisdom expected of a nurse working a 12 hour shift, the wages don't match. The pay in hospital heirarchy is administrators first, doctors second, seems like people in rehab next, then maybe nurses. The parking goes the same way. Nurses who get off work after dark or start after dark have to park in the furthest part of the parking lot, and the administrators who work 9-5 are right by the front door.

Justifying the salary of someone who has never done the work is ridiculous. CEOs are hired and paid specifically to make short-term profits for the companies they work for. That is their role. The board members are there to make sure that happens. The profits go into their pockets. If the CEO doesn't meet the goal of making a short-term profit, they are out, usually with a golden parachute. They make decisions they know hurt people. In this industry we are the people they hurt and steal from.

I am glad some of you are happy in your positions and think you make a good wage. I know for the level of my education, what used to be an good profession, and for the quality of work I do, I am not paid well. And I am not respected. Paying me a meagerly wage is only one way I am disrespected.

I also know from privately emailing people on this board that there are MTs who have cut deals with companies to only do one work type--for instance, if they are fast on op notes. How they manage that is beyond me. And the cherry picking, that's just how bad it is that people are stabbing each other in the back. Probably right where they want us, fighting amongst ourselves so we don't notice what they do or have the energy to do anything about it.

Very strange - sm

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It is very strange that you would take the time to write this very long and boring post. Who cares? Did this keep you up at night or something? Good grief! You do realize that stuff like this has gone on from the beginning of time? What are you going on about?

YOUR post is pathetic. Very Strange"s post was - dead-on accurate, and HARDLY "boring".

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I think maybe it's time to find out where ALL of the MTSO hot-shots live, and just how high-on-the-hog that happens to be. We have a right to know.. they're doing it with the sweat off our backs, and with what should've been some of OUR money.

my opinion - Ang

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Enjoyed reading your post - was interesting to me.

My opinion - see message

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I think we should make more money, but I think posting someones home shows a real lack of professionalism. Bascially, this woman wants someone to blame because she isn't making what she thinks she is worth. She also believes she is an educated woman deserving of success. You can be the most educated person in the world and lack common sense. Posting an address of the CEO is a complete lack of common sense. If we are going to go on and on about respect, than some people should start showing some.

My first thought is the original poster of this thread was also the original poster of the address thread. Seems to have all the previous posts memorized and is still going on about it days later. Strange indeed!

opinions - Ang

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Well glad to hear your opinion (really - I like to hear what people have to say) but I honestly did not find it so unprofessional - addresses and facts are everywhere - but mostly I was focused on the interest of it - I found it interesting - and as I said, that's just my opinion. If people feel strongly about something, they have to "chew on it" sometimes - better to talk than not to when (and if) troubled.

wasted energy - pushindapedal

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This baffles me. Yup, we don't earn the money we used to in this field. But my husband's income has also decreased 20 K over the last 8 years in his field while his expertise continues to grow. It is everywhere. No one is out to get us. Comparing yourself to anyone who does not have your job is stupid. Blaming everyone for your circumstances is useless. We all have choices in life. No one puts a gun to your head to make you sit at your computer every day. Get some help with your anger issue. Really.

Not always the case - SM

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I know many people who have had their positions for a very long time, and every year without fail receive a raise. True, they sometimes have to contribute a bit more to their health insurance per month if the company changes plans, but I personally know not one person who has taken the hit that we have. Who can say that after decades at a job they make many thousand dollars less than years ago, and continue to lose money because of management bolders thrown in the way of production and meeting lines?

Raise in today's economy...? - Raise

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Sometimes we just have to be happy to have our jobs and work a little harder to make more. My husband's company simply closed, so after 25 years he is now job hunting and can find NOTHING! Not that the Q is right, but better than nothing. I am thankful to be employed.

I understand your point - SM

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I was just mentioning that many people have not worked years and years with no increase in income. My sister, for example is evaluated every year and gets a nice yearly increase, as do two of my best friends. Their income has increased over the years, not decreased. I know so many are not that fortunate. Of course one should be thankful for a job.

I liked your post - CA-MT

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Especially the part about how nurses are treated. What I got out of your post was the big difference between the white and "blue collar" workers, those being us. I also used to be an RN, also with a Bachelor's degree, and yes, why should the suits get special priveleges like closer parking? It's the message that it sends, folks. It's not only that we have dealt with falling salaries (mine went from $54K to $24K full-time per year). This is while the suits get all the bonuses, and what do we get? Sorry, but I can't help thinking like that. The message it sends is clear. They can use us because they can, they do and there's nothing we can do about it.

I appreciate your being candid. I am tired of - sick and tired

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of so many pollyannas telling me how much money they are still making. I know you didn't choose to make less than $30k a year now nor did I. It just isn't possible any more on some of the accounts. Sitting here right now with NJA. That also cuts into my bottom line.

I just shake my head when the pollyannas - CA-MT

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say they can still make $40K a year. It's just impossible. We all know that. They're either trolls, liars or related to the president of MQ.

the education requirement for working as MT is - education and pay

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high school
MT training graduate.

If you accept a job as MT it does not matter if you have a Ph.D. or are the president of the United States, you will get the same pay rate.
You are not getting compensated for education and skills you can not put into use in the MT field.

True, but - CA-MT

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I'm not asking for any more than the others because of my education or nursing experience. I'm happy to bring it to the keyboard and do a good job. But the fact is, I'm getting paid 45% of what I made 10 years ago. Period. There had to be someone upstairs who made the choice to drop our salaries, mostly unbeknownst to us, i.e. by hook or by crook, in order to pad their own pockets. THAT's what I cannot accept and what makes me angry. And don't go changing the subject and ask me to leave. I have my reasons for going down with the ship. We're all here trying to find answers, to vent, or whatever.

Supposedly MQ had to drop their prices to - anon

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to keep getting dictation. But what good did it do to get twice the dictation at half the price at the expense of your employees? I know I am not an accountant, but . . .

Give it a rest - Jax

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Name me one company in the world that doesn't run this way. Some of you would complain no matter where you worked. As for calling people Pollyanna because they still make good money being MTs is about the worst sour grapes I have ever seen. Last year, I made $38,000, and it's not because I'm treated special or have cake accounts. It's because I bust my butt every day to do my job, and I do it WELL!! I have also gotten 2 raises in the last year, and it's for the same reason. I'm sorry you're having a hard time, but don't get pissy with other people because you're jealous and you feel the need to blame others. If you can't make it, get out of the field.

TWO RAISES?? - Who are you kidding? nm

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And $38,000 a year means - if straight ASR

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at approximately 6 cents a line which is probably top of the scale, you'd have to produce 329 lines an hour - on the average. What? And if it was straight typing, no ASR (no chance), you'd have to type at least 197 lines an hour. With ESLs? (sound of rolling eyeballs)

exactly~ - something is wrong with this picture sm

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it's not adding up.

Does not take a genius to figure this out.

Well, I'm no MQ fan, but I can believe her 38K. - Kiki

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I'm assuming this is FT. I'm FT, bust my hump and have always made a bit over 40K per year. Once I actually made 48, but it was like 8 years ago. However, this year I think I'll be lucky to bust 40, prob less. And BTW, in California, my making 40K is actually NOT that good considering the cost of living. But the point is, I totally believe she made 38K bc if I can do it, I know someone else can.

Remember, you can't simply just take the CPL and lines per hour, because, as I know, a lot of my extra money was made in bonuses and OT. But the bonus is gone, OT is gone, so I'm sure I'll drop to the mid to low 30s this year. Thank goodness I didn't try to buy that condo last year......

To Kiki - question

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Do you mind if I ask how many hours a day you work, or how many days a week. I know you said FT, but how many hours is that? Thanks.

I work 40 hours a week give or take an hour or two in either direction.......sm - Kiki

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That is now though. To make that 48K for example, was back when OT was available often and we had a decent bonus.

I just looked at my half-year earned so far, and there is no way in hades I will come close to even 40K this year. Probably 35K, which would probably be a decent amount if I lived in a more affordable state, but it may as well be poverty level here. Can't move or I would---my mom is showing signs of early Alzheimer's so need to be close by. Anyway...the reason my income dropped is this: Practically zilch OT with lockdown and no approval of OT anyway) and, even more importantly, getting thrown in the cesspool with a different round of new accounts every few weeks, not to mention the doing away with the bonus, which was replaced by a PITTANCE raise which amounts to literally PENNIES a day for me whereas in the past I made an average of about 125 bux per PP bonus. If I bought that condo I'd most likely be in foreclosure

See? - Jax

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You're right. It can't be done (<--sarcasm). I have a W2 that will prove you wrong. Why would I lie about how much I make? I make approximately 8 cpl with a differential for working graveyard. I do about 300+ lines per hour. I have gotten 2 raises, one for my anniversary after 2 years and one when I tiered up. You want to belive I must have some cushy account, but I have ESL doctors just like everybody else. All of my backups are in SoCal, and I very seldom get my primary just like everyone else. It's childish to call people a liar just because they can do something you can't. I'm good at what I do!

I have no doubt you do, Jax, or you, Kiki - I do it too

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This poster is just polluting about every thread with her ridiculous insinuations and misery. It's like she/he is obsessed and getting worse about it every day.

I don't think she's worth your time to argue with. She obviously has some VERY deep issues I suspect go beyond her dislike of ASR or anyone who is successful at it.

I believe both of you because I earn about the same amount, too, and I'm sure there are many more of us out there as well. You certainly don't have to defend yourselves to us, and that poster certainly doesn't deserve the satisfaction of making you justify yourselves.

She seriously needs to take a few days off for some R&R and regroup because it's like watching a top spiraling out of control at this point.

first time posting on this thread - to jax

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just curious about something. How much of your work is ASR and how much is straight? I'm just curious, not trying to start anything. Just looking for a percentage. That 300 lines per hour is a great line count. You should be proud of that. thx

ASR vs. Straight - Jax

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It's a valid question. It's never really the same from day to day, some days I get a lot more ASR and some days I get a lot more straight typing. It all depends on what backup pool I fall into. However, on the nights when I get more ASR work, my hourly line count goes up a bit.

thank you for answering - sm

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I am just the opposite. On most days I get maybe 3-4 charts that are straight typing, and for that period of time my line count is very high. The rest are ASR where I have to correct every other word and clean up an amazing amount of garbage.

It's quite discouraging, but I keep plugging along.

me2 (see below) 40K/yr w/70% ASR and a raise - ***

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Was supposed to get CMT raise too, but don't know what happened there.

There is a bell curve for a reason; not everyone is in the top 95%.

Curious - Curious

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Was looking at past posts and . . . WOW!!!!! PLEASE share how you do 300 lines per hour. I have been doing this for 12 years and have never gotten to 300. Would love your secrets.

$38,000 - BOMT

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You are definitely the exception not the rule in this field anymore. I think a smell a rat.

To Jax - Give it a rest

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Jax, when I read the OP, it is a description of how business runs, the role of the CEO and board members, so responding by saying--name me one company...--tells me you missed the point of the post. Mostly statements of fact. I am glad you made $38,0000 last year, but frankly, it's hard to believe you are sorry that your co-workers are having a hard time, calling people pissy and jealous. Who knew you even existed or who you were or what you made? You took the post personally for some reason. Do you ever visit the other boards? People are leaving, and people are in school, if you can read and comprehend what others are saying, instead of taking it personally. It's trite and mean-spirited to tell someone if they can't make it, get out. Are you experiencing the same economy we are? This is probably going right over your head.

Someone's reference to pollyannas was regarding people's blind optimism that companies or people in corporate care about the worker, when they don't. Again, the point of the post. Point of the post was not your income.

Why don't you give it a rest?

My 2 cents worth - sm

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If you don't like how much money they have and how they spend it, go make your money. Go get your higher education (Master or higher degree) and work yourself up into a higher paying career, spend your money the way you like.

If you're in the right position, make changes. Put to use the changes YOU think should happen (at least while you're down here on this level, lol).

Otherwise, get over it.

You're just making yourself miserable when you have the power to do whatever you want with your life. Armchair critic, I suppose, is a good term for it.

reply my2cents - miserable

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This is a forum for expressing opinions and responding to other posts. You have apparently made assumptions about the poster. State your opinion, not what you think someone else is feeling or how they are living. How do you know poster is miserable and not making changes in the world? What do you want to poster to get over? Get over opinions and observations? Let's all put blinders on and keep our mouths shut. Armchair critics offer advice but don't show they could to it better or different. What was the advice offered? I didn't read any advice.

However, your advice is superb. Follow your own advice: Go make your own money. How are you doing that? As an MT? Get your own degree. Have you done that? Spend you own money as you want. Do you do that? Or are you mostly paying bills with your MT salary with very little left over to do anything? Share your own opinion, observations, and experience rather than guessing at what someone else means and giving them advice.

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