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Unemployment issues - Anonymous

Posted: Nov 10, 2011

Has anyone ever been offered a job and accepted offer letter only to turn it down and actually not start working at all at the company and then filing for unemployment benefits? This is what has happened to me.

This happened to me and now evidently it threw up a red flag to unemployment benefits audit department. Now unemployment has to check with that company I was supposed to start at to verify employment and now I have a 50-50 chance of getting benefits and have to wait about 3 weeks to get a "decision letter." If I am not eligible, I have to repayment all money that was given to me. I am not trying to cheat anyone and I have worked hard all my life and have never filed for unemployment before.

I am thinking that if anyone out there takes a job offer and then changes their mind before starting to work with that company, this might knock you out of qualifying at all. I know a few MTs that did start working for this company and it was not a good fit for them and they are miserable. I knew once they started they would not qualify which they did not, but evidently I do not either. I feel like I am screwed now.

I am thinking that if unemployment office sends you on a job interview or you refuse a job that will knock you out of qualifying. That is like forcing you to take a job whether you wanted to or not and be miserable and not work after all.

Now it is the waiting game, but I have a gut feeling it is not to my benefit and will have to repay about $1000. Makes me sick and anxious. My former company went out of business and I should not have applied to the other company that offered me a job, but I was scared not to apply and would be left out in the cold, but then had second thoughts and did not start, but evidently in the government system it is still showing up that I went to work for the other company which I never did. I just cannot win anymore and I am truly an honest person and was not trying to cheat anyone. The final decision will be left to a total stranger to decide my fate which is sad. What makes it even more sickening is the people out here that are truly abusing the system and get away with it. I think I am just going to take early retirement and then work PT. I want to live a little and enjoy what quality time I have left.

The problem is ... - anon

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In most states, if not all, if you are offered a job paying the same or almost the same as your previous job and you do not take it and instead take unemployment that is considered fraud.

not taking a job???? - Anne

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You can't accept a job offer and then change your mind and think you are going to collect unemployment. I might be passing judgment here but it seems like you would rather be on unemployment than work. Who in their right mind would rather be on unemployment than working a decent job? The economy is terrible, and there are millions of people out there with all kinds of college degrees who can't even get any type of job but would love to have something to get out of the house. I don't get you. Maybe you need to consider what job you actually apply for before you apply.

Who are you replying to? - anon

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I assume you are replying to anonymous and not anon. Otherwise, you need to read my message again.

Whoops! Reply meant for anon :-) - Anne

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Whoops! Yes, my response is meant for anon. :-)

In that case, I suggest you read it again. - anon

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I'm anon. I said in my response that if you do not take a job and instead go on unemployment that is considered fraud. I have never been on unemployment in my life. I don't know why you think I'm suggesting that someone should do that.

Mean for anon as in anonymous :-) - Anne

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No not you anon the other anon as in anonymous. :-)

Not you . . . sorry - Anne

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Not you. :-) As a side note: If you have never been on unemployment in your life, consider yourself lucky. People are on unemployment all the time for reasons beyond their control. I think that some jobs just were prone to being "cut" first; however, now that EVERYTHING is saturated and everyone flocked to a healthcare job (especially nursing, etc.), those jobs are now facing the same issue.

Sorry anon! :-)

Here is what I would do - sm

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You didn't say why you changed your mind? I would write down in a clear letter the reasons why you changed your mind. i.e. After consideration, you realized the cpl was not adequate or equipment required would cost too much, or hours not satisfactory because (?), or you didn't feel you were actually qualified because (?).

I would also make sure I have documentation of jobs applied for (e-mails, letters, phone calls) to show I was actively looking for work.

I made a mistake on my paperwork once and had two weeks denied. I "appealed" and had a telephone meeting with a "judge". She asked me to raise my right hand and swear to tell the truth (this over the phone--I had to keep from giggling and raising my right foot.) Anyway, I explained my mistake and received the two weeks' pay retroactively.

HUH? - What?

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I found most of your post to be whiny.

Be grateful that unemployment is there for you. YOU HAD A JOB but decided not to start working, i.e. you turned down a job offer. You could be working but CHOSE not to. And you expect taxpayers to pay your bills?

This part totally cracked me up: "The final decision will be left to a total stranger to decide my fate which is sad."

Whom did you expect to make this ruling, your friends and relatives?

going on unemployment soon - KJ

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My company just outsourced us to Nuance and we have a few days left until either switching over to Nuance or filing for unemployment benefits. Yes, I was offered a job with Nuance, but I knew to run, run as far as I could; going from very good hourly rate to 4 cpl just would not begin to pay the bills. So, I will apply for unemployment as this is my right to do so, while I look for another job and or go back to college. I spoke with the benefits specialist in my area, and she said had I accepted the offer with Nuance and before even transitioning to them decided to change my mind that the claim would be brought into question and I might not get benefits at all. In no way will I stay on unemployment longer than I have to; that is just not me. I have worked two and three jobs in the past six years just to make ends meet, trying to raise my two boys. However, I have to have something steady coming in at least to keep my head above water until I can move on. I do know that after a certain amount of time getting the unemployment benefits, there are certain rules that apply with accepting job offers--like you have to accept a job offer that is 80% of what you had been making, then a few weeks later 75%, then so on, and so on. Good luck to anyone out there who is facing this same situation.

Unemployment question while working at a lowly salary - lka

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I hope somebody can help me with my dilemma. I left a job about 2 months ago because of a very low pay rate and accepted another position with another MTSO that pays much better than the one I left after being there for 2 years.

Now with 20 plus years of experience in all specialties I fear I am not going to pass the 90 day probation, having been there for almost 2 months already. I have a primary account and ran out of work there, so was given 2 secondary accounts. With all 3 of these accounts I am lucky to average 600 lines per day, where I used to do 2000 plus no problem. I am also about to move in about 6 weeks (having paid a deposit) but wonder if I will be able to make the rent, much less utilities and food.

My question is, if I do not pass the 90-day probation and am terminated, how do they determine my unemployment rate? Before I worked for the first MTSO for 2 years I was an IC and averaging about $22 an hour. At the last MTSO averaged about $12 and now at this job, I know I am averaging even less than that. Also, if I work 8 hours but my line count does not really equate to 8 hours of work, I am supposed to enter less hours for said shift, say 4 or 5 hours? I am guessing that is because they do not pay minimum wage for NO JOBS? Another reason my line count is SO low is that they provide NO samples to speak of and are the worst dictators I have ever encountered, so why should I be punished for that is my question. I think I have a good ear and had my share of ESL at the other MTSO, but this place is beyond bad.......... It is very frustrating to put in 8 hours a day and lots of it is looking up demographics, doctor names and what have you and then only put down 4 or 5 hours, and then I may not even pass!!!! Any help is appreciated on what recourse I have and what I may expect in the realm of unemployment benefits!

Anonymous - Pauline

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I have been an MT for over 34 years and have never applied for unemployment. Some of the opinions on here were harsh. I have worked all of my life and have never asked for a handout from anybody. They did not offer me the job but I reached out to them first as I did not want to be left behind so to speak and had to sign an offer letter before all openings were filled because they would not answer the questions I wanted to know until I signed offer letter, but after I found out it was for VR of which I had no experience at all and some current MT friends stating how awful it was and stressful as they had started before me, I changed my mind before training was to take place and after a long and gut wrenching decision I decided not to take the job. I did get the chance for an interview and explain what happened. I also know that some people just take advantage of the "system," but I have never one to do that. I too have also had 2 jobs at one time. Those of you that had such harsh words I hope you never find yourself in this situation ever. I plain and simple made a mistake and did not find out all the details first. You really should not judge a person unless you have truly have walked in their shoes. None of us are perfect and I expect to be working until my dying days. Thank you KJ for being more understanding than some.

I do believe you have to have earned a - sm

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certain amt of money before you can file. If you earned nothing, of course you do not qualify.

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