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All companies need to be investigated by the Senate floor...VR needs investigating - Unfair labor

Posted: Jul 06, 2014

So tired of hearing "VR is here to stay, and get used to it, and this is the going rate." A plain chest x-ray cost is now over $800, and they send it off site to be read. A sleep study is over $5000. There are multiple hidden ways of price gouging, yet this profession is being used for others to profit. Who is regulating all of this as you have absolutely no recourse even as a patient. VR has eliminated MTs, yet the radiologists benefit because they can read twice as fast and make more money on top of their high-ended salary and contracts to being with, yet we are told you can go faster, (only in theory), but then our pay is cut and production quota doubled. It is all nonsense and the wrongs continue. VR should be a helpful tool for our profession also, not just for others to take advantage. This would seem to be all unfair labor practices. Things need to change and someone in Washington needs to follow the money trail.

This is some docs are sending patients to the ER to get - EKGs and x-rays, especially

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Medicare and Medicaid patients. They lose money, so they send them to the ER. You should read the blogs from doctors some time and see how many of them are leaving because they are overwhelmed.

Unfair - MT2

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I have been saying this since it all began. IMHO, they began the cutbacks because they were seeing we were able to increase our speed with shortcuts/expanders, and it went from there. The greed by these companies, including hospitals, is never ending. I have been saying for years, the patient should also be one to sign the reports these doctors (who I wonder HOW some of them ever got a license to start with) dictate because THEY make so many mistakes, yet what is being done??? Talk about discrimination at its finest. I won't get started, saving it. So tired of micromanagement, and leaving OT open on accounts every day without even knowing what the work load is which forces one into being on call basically to work hours outside of our schedules to catch to get hours in, which end up having to be approved now of course, yet we are told our schedules "must be adhered to"

Isn't that strange that there is one dislike--why would an MT be against this is - beyond me.

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This is the absolute truth and our job has taken a turn for unfair labor practices. This has to be a 'scout' who is checking the boards...as we all figured.

There is always some odd soul who finds delight in disliking everything. nm - Sad to be them

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It likely wasn't an MT that disliked it. A company - snoop without much to do is more like it.

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I think they think they're somehow "accomplishing" something by trying to make it look like the problem is the MTs, not the MTSOs. Of course, those of us who actually have brains, rather than just being corporate robots, know the problem is NOT the MTs.

weird assumptions - the disliker

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I disliked it because I'm sick of people wanting someone else to rescue them. I'm sick of people assuming because a few companies really suck that all companies suck.

Industries change, end, evolve. Ours is. CEOs in EVERY industry are making money hand over fist and running to Senate to hold hearings on this issue would just be a big waste of time and bigger waste of money. We've already seen what our Congress is capable of- nothing.

How many of you screaming about unfair labor practices are pro-union? How many of you stay in a job that is abusing you? How about starting at your own kitchen table and leave these jobs. I know, I know. They're bad but not so bad that you actually want to DO something, you'd rather wait on that Knight.

Not a scout, a suit, or any other bad guy. Just an MT who has seen what companies are unscrupulous and made sure I'm not working for them. When and if I can't find a company I feel is honest and law-abiding, I'll get out.

the disliker - nana

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I second everything she said. What are you looking for Congress to do, make them pay us more? They can't do that. You can make a change but won't because you don't want to sacrifice. You are the one doing the job for pennies so why wouldn't employers offer less. They know you will take it. If you want change make it happen for yourself. Don't worry about what the next person does, if you're not happy with the situation change if for yourself.

Saw this coming for years now. Lots of people on here kept wanting to unionize us not because of better pay but so they can't reduce our pay like they have but no one wanted anything to do with it. Remeber there is strength in numbers and as long as you are willing to stand alone, alone you will stand. Now it is way to late to do anything about it other than get out of this line of work. If you don't get out of it, then shut up about the pay, long hours and everything else that is associated with this job. If you are going to stay in the business then change your mind set that everyone owes you something. I owe myself.

Right now I am fortunate and have a very good job with a company, make much better than average pay, lots of OT and benefits. I am also concerned that one day we will be outsourced. That is when I will no longer do this job and will go into another field of some kind. That is my choice.

I am just sick and tired of people coming here and wanting everyone else to fix the situation. When do you realize you are on a sinking ship and no one is going to throw you a life line. Either go down with the ship or bale out before it really sinks. Or will you wait for someone else to tell you to jump.

Disliker - MT2

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That's your opinion, and that's it, and last time I looked, we are all entitled to one, not just you. If you don't like mine, I don't care, and I am sure you don't care what I think of you or yours. IMHO, those that say nothing about what is going on is part of the problem.

You forgot the - nana boo boo part (nm)

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geesh

Disses on the disliker. Bad assumptions also. - Sickening

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You may not agree but don't speak with ignorance.

Hospitals never allowed unions. They were founded as not for profit. Pres. Regan fired union workers and changed the course of unionization...check your history...a lot of us lived it.

Your comment about shutting up...pretty ignorant too. I can see you surely don't know that law either. Only way to get changes for injustices is the system that we have in place.

A lot of us started years ago when we had a voice. VR was coming along, but no need to outsource to 3rd-world countries and eliminate the American worker.

You talk like a narcissistic person who should not be in healthcare anyway, because it is not all about you. You talk about standing alone...we never did, we worked as a unit. We were considered a career worker. Some of us worked in the day where there was no shift differential--we changed that for you.

Telling people to just get out is just ignorant. Many of us have devoted years to a career and maybe it is not as easy for some of us to start all over again and at the bottom of the food chain. Compassion and understanding you truly lack.

I see injustices to those of us who have sacrificed yet invested years that we cannot redo. So, you can move on and have years to do it in, good for you. One day hopefully your Karma will catch up with you.

Sounds like the "disliker" is one of the same Italian's ship's captain who hit the barge and abandoned ship.

Sickening - nana

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Please don't talk to me like I am new to this business. I have been in this business for more than 30 years, during the best times of medical transcription, sign on bonuses, in high demand and had no issues getting a job at the hospitals in my area. So please I have invested the greater part of my adulthood to this business and am not as stupid as you seem to think I am.

I beg to differ with you. We had 3 local hospitals that were unionized. Hard to get into those hospitals. I tried for years but there were never any openings. So yes, I do know what I am talking about. Second I don't like the fact that I do the same job for less money then I did 10 years ago, but that is the way it is right now. Expecting the government to fix that is crazy. Although I have not worked for many services (3 as a matter of fact) when I kept running out of work or had to retype reports and only got paid 4 cents per line because that was what it was coded in as, was my last report I did for that service. All 3 of them were the same and I refuse to work for 4 cents per line. I could have stayed and complained but instead I did something about it and am glad I did. I kept looking until I found a good job with plenty of work, making very good money in comparison to what I read on this board. But I didn't expect anyone to do it for me. I looked and looked every day until I found what I was looking for. That was my point, just in case you can't read between the lines, I didn't expect someone to fix it for me.

That is the mentality now in this country. Instead of banding together to fix what we don't like we wait and complain about it and do nothing but complain. If Karma is going to catch up to me for fending for myself then bring it on. I set my limits of what I will take from an employer and when I reach those limits I move on. I am damn good at what I do and have enough self-value to keep looking until I get a job I feel compensates me for my level of skill. So to assume I haven't been in this business long, I have. You call me a narcissist, why, because I don't let these employers intimidate me into working for peanuts. If so then I gladly wear the title of marcissist. Because of that I shouldn't be in this business? I am damn good at what I do, so I hate to tell you what you can do with your opinion.

A few years ago on this site when a hospital got outsourced the newspaper came on here to interview people and everyone was screaming they were afraid to talk to her. They were afraid their jobs would be outsourced. Well that happened anyway. The time to have banded together was before internet and before our jobs got outsourced, but even then most were too afraid to do it. So please don't tell me we all stood together. We then have a different definition of standing together.

You didn't change anything for me. I didn't get, nor do I get shift differential now and I am still happy with my job.

I have plenty of compassion for people who want to help themselves. If you don't want to help yourself then no I do not have compassion. Like it or not thats the way it is. I will bend over backwards and have bent over backwards to help those that are trying to better themselves, both transcriptionists I know personally and on this board, so please don't tell me I am not compassionate. I just don't have patience for those who do not want to help themselves. And no I will not apologize for that and don't care if you like it or not.

I don't have years to wait in this business. I am in my late 50s and have been doing this since my early 20s. So I had to make things happen myself and so far I have. Like I said in my post when this job is no longer profitable for me I will find something else to do because God helps those that help themselves and that is what I am doing.

I don't like outsourcing anymore than the next person and feel it is wrong, but it is not a battle anyone is willing to listen to. We aren't the only ones this happened to. And it has been going on for years and years. Factories moving to Mexico so not to have to pay higher wages here in America. Didn't pay attention then did you, cause it didn't affect you. VR has been talked about long ago, we knew about it yet we didn't get out then when you didn't have so much time invested in this business. So please writing has been on the wall for more years than I care to count.

Think what you want. I really don't care but talk what you know not what you assume.

Nana does a lot of assumptions also. - anon

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You assume and think you have the answer that is right for everyone because you did it and it should be right for everyone. You care and have compassion for what you think. We all have different stories. Things are not as they seem. Glad that you have the ability to move and change jobs. Maybe some of us do not. Glad you have the book of answers.

Are you the same person on the Politics Forum - who blames everything

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on Reagan? This is why so many of us don't come to this board anymore. Unless you have a waaaah ambulance mentality you are not welcome.

Hospitals might say they are not for profit, but that's not true. Otherwise why would they care what things cost.

No I am not the same person. I liked Reagan for the most part. - nana

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I didn't mean you nana, this was meant for the post - above, I support you. nm

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Nobody blamed everything on Regan - anon

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It was only in that he was responsible for the firing of a work force that was unionized. There was no political intent at all, it was just something that was stated as to history and when hospital workers were for patient care and not to organize. Just lived those days.

So are you the welcoming committee now - anon

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Nobody blamed Reagan for everything and nobody discussed politics. Plus hospitals that are not for profit have to put whatever they make back into the facility. There is a big difference there also. Caregiver has a truly deeper meaning attached to it and that was supposed to be the meaning behind hospitals. Those days are gone too. All for profit and CEOs are what have ruined healthcare.

If I want to be abused, I'll go back to the - politics board. Thank you

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for the welcome, but no.

weird assumptions - MT2

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disliker...sounds like you are doing a lot of "assuming"...assuming anyone is asking anyone to rescue them for starters. If you are so happy with where you are, what are you doing here, on this board? Thanks for your opinion. Have a better day.

MT2 - nana

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Actually I didn't read your post until just now. I was commenting on the original post and the post about the dislike. But since now I read your post, I am sorry you feel you have to continue working a job you so obviously dislike. Sorry you don't feel you are worth more than that but obviously you don't.

My first post was my opinion and so is this one. Try to enjoy your day. Looking at the cup as half full instead of half empty will make for a better day.

I don't make what I used to make. My income has gone down and I work my butt off for less, but I still make good money and feel very fortunate to have a decent job. Even so I am not looking at anyone to solve my problems but me. No one else.

nana...hey,hey goodbye! - OP

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It was never stated that working a career with labor laws being in violation of questionable injustices were "looking for others to solve our problems." Dumb and Dumber #2 is coming out...I guess it's here.

Never knew that when trying to get the law to see injustices means looking for someone else to solve one's problems. The legalities are in place by our laws and in order to get injustices changed, we have to go through the proper steps. No excuse for ignorance of the law. Laws also are man made and can be changed. That is our only recourse.

Injustice is the bottom line and how to stop it. You totally missed the entire point. Most of us do our job because we like it...not what it has become. We know we cannot go back, but we should be able to make it better not worse. Thought we are more aware of abuse nowadays and how to stop it.

No need to fight amongst ourselves. I thought we were all in the same boat...some of us will abort, some of us will help others, and some of us will go down with the boat. We have worked with all kinds.

So, you have your own good day with your own glass of water and don't drown in your own self arrogance.

OP - nana

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If you would have said the Labor Board I would have been in complete agreement. But what do you expect Congress to do. They can't fight their way out of a brown paper bag and you expect what?

So sorry you mistake my self confidence as arrogance. Trust me I won't be the one drowning in my own water.

I do have good days. I make sure even my bad days are good days. I try to find something good throughout my day every day, a kind word said or the encouragement I gave a fellow worker who is having a bad day and when the day gets a little rough I think about the good from that day or yesterday and it brightens up my day. Its all about attitude.

Nana---again, not so. Experience knows best. - OP

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Then that is how little you know also about the Labor Board. Go ahead, call yours. Mine has the same government worker who recites the line, "if you do not have a union, your employer has the right to hire and fire." End of any story. And I have told them that hospitals do not allow a union. Then you are told to get a lawyer. Still pending is the case of MTs vs Transend. Then there was one with MModal...nobody got anything, they got a slap on the wrist.

"Pay Day Loans" who scalp and get away with it. Can take your car if you do not pay their mofia-type interest fees. Why, because my governor's office says because nobody complains and they lobby and have no changes in the law, so they are protected, even though it is wrong, and I was told because nobody complains to their state representatives.

Car dealerships sell you insurance coverage if you die. When death happens before the 2-year law, the insurance does not honoring the agreement because they are 'within the law' because it states in fine print you have to be in "good health" and if you have seen a doctor or have a diagnosis, they do not have to honor the agreement. My state insurance office said it is because nobody complains to change the law, so therefore it stands. He told me that people should call their department of insurance before signing.

We have 2 senators and officials to speak for us and we pay their salaries and their health benefits. They need to hear from their employers--we the people. Therefore, I do not see it from your perspective at all. We are paying them and that is their job, and that is how it works and they are put there to fight for the people and to protect our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

OP - nana

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I have called the Labor Board in my state. They cannot do anything about how much we get paid but they can make sure we get paid for everything we do. So they can help with all the stuff that we do for free. And if they fire you for going to the Labor Board they will sue them at no cost to me to get my job back.

Since when is having a union up to the hospitals? If the people vote one in they get a union. The hospital may try to intimidate you, threaten to outsource and lay everyone off, etc., try to keep the union out, but hospitals already have unions. The nurses are part of a union, house cleaners are part of a union, and I am sure there are more. So your statement about hospitals don't allow unions is not true at all.

You bring up Pay Day Loans. Who do you think allowed them to get a business license and allow how much they can charge. Your lovely senators and congressman thats who. They are well within the law. Same for insurance companies. They go up in front of state government to raise rates. So this government is not for the little people, its against us. Until we revolt and until we stop paying for this crooked government we all get what we deserve. The big corporations have lobbists, we have nothing.

Bottom line if you don't like Pay Day Loans, don't go there. If you don't want the insurance on a car that pays if off if you die, don't buy it. If you don't like the way your employer treats or pays you don't work for them. That is what you call free enterprise.

I can charge $1,000 for a old couch and if someone is stupid enough to pay that then I am well within the law. Thats how it works.

You do have choices. Again if you wait for the government to do anything you will be waiting a long time unless of course we become a socialist country and then they will make all the decisions for you. Is that what you want.

where do you get hospitals do not allow unions? - Talk to the folks at Univ. of NM

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They had a union. It didn't stop them from outsourcing the whole department to Nuance.

Hospitals absolutely allow unions. My hospital does not because the CEO is fabulous and has created an environment where the workers feel appreciated and we don't want or need a union. There are plenty of hospitals that have them, though.

Nobody said a union would stop VR - anon

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In the 70s and 80s there were no unions allowed for nursing nor hospital caregivers. Check The Donahue show archives in 1981 when unions were being torn down. A nurse was on his show and was burnt out and said she was told patient care first, not for nurses. Maybe it has changed now. He asked another woman the question of who should be able to form unions, and she indicated nurses should not, but garbage men could. That was when NY had the garbage strike and Greyhound workers were also fired for striking.

It was never meant to solve any problem with MTs. It was said that because nobody joined and the writing was on the wall, so we got what we deserved.

In-house we did not need to either because we were treated fairly.

Experience knows best - nana

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Can you be more naive? Sure they tell you to call and complain. What government agency is Department of Insurance. Never heard of them. Insurance regulatory board I have heard of.

Now the insurance industry has lobbists that donate to the campain funds of these same senators and congressmen that are telling you to call and complain to. Who do you think they are going to listen to, you who they are supposed to represent or to whomever has the most money.

So you just keep making those phone calls and complaining about everything under the sun. Lets just see how far that gets you.

IMO the answer is to stop all donations and lobbists. Make that illegal. If they want to run for office let them use their own money to run.

Our government is as crooked as crooked can be yet you think they are there for you. Why is this country in the shape its in? Because money talks and BS walks. Thats why. When they are talking about how great this country has rebound are they talking about you? Why not. Cause they don't care about you.

Have you ever seen such profits as you have in the past few years by this big corporations. That is where the governments loyalty is not with you.

You claim to have such experience, with what? You state as a matter of fact that hospitals do not allow unions, but they do, you claim that the labor board will do nothing for you but they do all the time. You act like corporate greed is new, its not, its just gotten out of hand because the government has allowed it. Wake up and smell the coffee lady. You are delusional.

After reading all of your posts, I am done with this conversation.

Department of Insurance is state level - it controls insurance rates, licensing

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I used to sell insurance, so I do know about this. There is a department of insurance in every state. They may not call it that, but it's essentially a regulatory board that controls insurance rates in the state, licensing for agents, etc. It regulates how the policies are written in that it has to give approval for the policy forms that make up the policy itself. If an insurance company like Hartford wants to raise their rates in Alaska, they have to submit those new rates to the Alaska Dept. of Insurance for approval. If they want to make a change to a particular policy form such as form XYZ that states that they will not insure for bear damage, then they have to submit that form for approval before they can include it in their policies.

If enough people feel harmed by Policy form XYZ and if enough people complain, then it might be looked into and action taken, but if the Dept. of Ins. is corrupt and run by an old boy's network, as in my state, then you're out of luck.

It is on a state level though, and not federal at all.

I totally agree. - no msg

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