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I am sick of getting dinged for "illogical" text. - sick of this


Posted: Mar 27, 2014

Being that I have 30 years experience, have been here for about 8 years, and have never had bad audits but am now being failed and under performance management, I figure I am on their target list, and it is just a matter of time before I am out of here either by their hand or my hand (haven't landed the new job in the new career yet). So, I might as well go down with a good fight. I have been dinged for "illogical" text despite leaving the text as dictated. I had 1 that I am sure I would get dinged for, but I had no idea how to fix that since I had no idea what exactly the doctor was trying to communicate. So I sent the job number and statement that there was illogical text in there because I did not know what the doctor wanted and thus could not fix it. LOL I might as well have fun with their arrows and shoot a few back.

When in doubt, leave a blank. - nm

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Where do you "just" leave a blank when you have an entire - paragraph of illogical nonsense?

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Just curious.

Leave a BIG blank ;) - CT

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Haha - touche. Made me snort just there. - (nm)
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BIG BLANK QA COMPLAINT - Diane King
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I did this, in fact with a huge report that was garbled, so QA complains because they have to all this straight transcription, and OF COURSE, it's my fault as the lowly MT.
We're always complaining about something. Don't mind us. - CT
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Maybe then leave several blanks. - QA markers do not count against you.

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I can see it now....

"The patient _______ feels _______ and then ______ without evidence of ______ ejection fraction ______ ....."

That's EXACTLY how I would do it. Then, if you get audited and there are points taken off for the blanks, challenge it! If an auditor is able to fill in blanks, it is supposed to be Educational Feedback only, with no points counted against you. That is what my QC, PC, or whatever they are called now, told me.
That is true... - Ginger
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You should never get points off for leaving a blank whether someone else can fill it in or not. It is ALWAYS feedback. If not, you need to challenge.
Yes but... if you understand crystal clear every word - and the whole thing is illogical?
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Where do you leave "blanks" when you actually understand the whole thing all too clearly and it makes no sense?
At the point(s) where it quits making sense. Safer to flag than try to fix if too big of a mess. - NM
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Ok I got you. Any suggestions for sort of - polite comments you can leave?
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As I said below, I struggle with knowing what to say without sounding rude or high and mighty.
Suggestions - sm
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Perhaps something short and sweet like "meaning unclear," "unclear context," or something like that. Short and sweet is usually the best bet.
Ok Thanks! - Appreciate it. (nm)
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Suggestions - MEMT
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I once left a comment on a dictator stating he should get off the cell phone as the reception was unclear. I got called on that one but ask me if I gave a crap
Blanks are not just for unlcear words. - sm
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They are also used for unclear meaning. Leave the blanks where the context of the sentence gets sketchy. Leave several blanks per sentence and/or paragraph if that's what it takes. As I stated above, you should not be counted off on an audit for blanks, so use blanks where context is unclear. For example...

If this was dictated, "The patient is a rabbit every other Sunday and has an ejection fraction of 65%."

I would edit the report to show, "The patient is a ______ and has an ejection fraction of 65%."
OK but sometimes it is the WHOLE thing that makes no sense. - Not one or two particular words.
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Would it be appropriate to put in a "marker" at the beginning/end of the passage without leaving a particular "blank"? Also I have the trouble of knowing what kind of comment to leave without it sounding insulting.

I can't think of a good example right now, darn it.

I do appreciate all of the above comments though. I am not trying to argue, honestly!
Whole thing? - sm
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By "the whole thing," do you mean an entire sentence or paragraph? I'm not sure if leaving a blank for an entire sentence is acceptable. Perhaps if there is an auditor reading this post, they can chime in and help with this. However, I think I can safely assume that leaving a blank for an entire paragraph would be unacceptable.

I think the best thing to do is leave several blanks throughout the sentence and/or paragraph. Even if you do something like this, "_____ the _____ an ______ the patient _____ with ____ the _____ the _____ the ..." you should not have points taken off for it.

Do you have a good QC/PC person who will answer your emails? This would be a fantastic question to ask her! I'm sure she's familiar with this specific dictator(s) and could give you suggestions on how to handle illogical text.
I mean when I understand every single word - but the sentence(s) do not make sense.
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Unfortunately, my QA/C/M does not usually answer my emails, or if she does, she does not actually really answer my question. I don't even bother her any more. Lol.
LOTS OF BLANKS - Diane King
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Also, you have to send a report to your MGR if there are a lot of blanks, more than 3 and there will also likely be the mantra, WHY DIDN'T YOU SEND IT TO QA, then it affects your pay if you send too many.
I've never had to do this? - Is this just for your BOB? nm
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INDIVIDUAL BOB - Diane King
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Probably. The Mgr before, had us send a note if we had 2 OR MORE blanks.... either way.... more things to keep up with!

I type the words I can hear and put blanks in between where inaudible. - nm

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Yep, leave a marker and note on anything in doubt & you can't - be dinged for it. CYA. nm

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Leaving blanks - BH

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I did this and then got an e-mail from TSM that "you are leaving too many blanks." This was a new account, and she asked "is this account really that hard, that you have to leave this many blanks?" Then we got e-mails that we were leaving too many blanks, and to spend more time figuring them out, using previous reports, repository, and research, along with e-mails saying we were spending too much time doing research.
Let me guess... LM? (sm) - Nancy
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The MTSOs want us to handle dictators who do not form words and just utter monotone animal noises through a ROS or PE by filling in what they normally dictate in places were no MT, QA person or doctor would be able to understand it. It's amazing how far they will go to blame us for chronic doctor errors.

As for jibberish, this is something I rarely experienced until doctor's introduction to EMS. When they are dictating while trying to figure out how to use point & click and find prior records, they say things that make absolutely no sense.

My 3-time rule - poorhouse

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If I can't understand something being said, I listen 3 times while doing a quick Google search. Then, it gets a blank. I've had an entire paragraph of jibberish dictated by a drunk-sounding Asian with cheeks full of marbles where I left blank after blank with the few words I could pick up. Then, sent it to QA. If I have to listen to that crap, someone else is going to too.

mine too - corgi

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Mine too; also if it is a bad audio file with lots of muffled dictation or static, I just QA marker all over and type what I understand and then leave a note to that effect.

I will let a long report go with two blanks without sending to QA; if it is a short report or more than 2 blanks with clear dictation, not a bad audio file, I will send the report on to QA which 9/10 times they too can't figure out what was being said.



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