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"Whaddya Do?" (long post) - Pretend You Are Me


Posted: Mar 06, 2011

What would you do if you were:

- 62 years old, physically active, in good health.  A little bit hyperctive, actually.

- Have been an MT most of your life, since around 1974.

- Not a very motivated student; got C's in HS, barely got an AA degree in community college in general studies & English.

- Worked most years as an on-site MT, have been at home with a large MTSO for the last 5 years.

- You're very good at MT'ing, but current pay, percentage of VR, and multiple other factors mean that you're not making enough to live on.

- You have benefits, but who knows for how long.   Little things like a doctor or dentist office visit are a huge financial problem for you.   You cross your fingers and pray that your car continues to run, that you or your pets don't get sick.

- You realize you must do something, but no option seems realistic:

1 --- Go back to school?  (considering paralegal or legal secretary course).   (Online?  or On-campus?  or Both?)  (You are still working full-time, about 10-14 hrs/day).   Nearest campus is 40 miles away.

You do the math, and realize an A.A. in paralegal will cost somewhere between 30K - 60K, even for online courses.   You have $100 in your savings account,  $23 in checking.   You read that "financial aid is available".   Assuming this is a loan that must be repaid, you wonder if you'll be turned down based on your age, and the bank's/school's belief that your remaining working years might not outlive the loan.  

2 --- Change MT jobs?   (You have already been looking.)  You currently make 8.5 cpl for transcription, but your VR (@ 4 cpl) ratio is creeping up to about 65-80% each day.  You are making even less money than you did last year.    Fellow MTs at different companies tell you that if you join their company, even though it's only 7 cpl to start, you'll make more money on their platform/with those accounts/etc.  But that's how you got into this mess in the first place: You listened to an MT friend, left a good job, and joined an MTSO, only to discover what they say and what they are, are 2 entirely different things.   You look for work, a few good prospects arise, but the minute your age/experience is let out of the bag, you don't get the job.  Or even the interview, in most cases.   Your best current option is a long, expensive commute to an on-site job at a very small mom 'n' pop MTSO in the city.   You don't yet know their pay scale, but it can't be much more than you're currently making.   Since your car is unreliable, you would have to take a ferry to the city, which would cost you roughly $130 per week.   In addition to bus fare from the ferry terminal to midtown.   You keep that option on the very back burner, and keep cold-calling hospitals in your area.   99.9% of them outsourse their MT work, and have no transcription dept.

3 --- Sit tight, work for the same company you're at, and hope that you can hang on for 5 more years until your social security benefits start?  (Since SS is base on something like the last 4 years of your employment, and they were spent at this MTSO, you know those checks are going to be very small.)  Even if you're still working for your same MTSO, it's likely those SS checks won't cover the increased cost of living that will occur over the next 5 years.

4 --- Look for a low-paying entry-level office job, such as file clerk or girl-Friday?  Work in retail?  Be a receptionist?  (Note:  You dislike all these options.  Your office skills, other than transcribing medical reports, are pretty much zero.  You could update these, but it would require more school, more money.  Still an option?  Or forget-about-it?)

5 --- Start an eBay side-business selling some sort of homemade trinkets?  (I'm grasping at straws, with this idea.)  I actually have some artistic talent, including embroidery.   If you were going to do that, what would you consider making/selling that could be done in 1, maybe 2, "free" hours per day that aren't spent typing? 

If you were going the side-job route, what other things have you considered doing?   Have you ever thought about starting a on online blog?   If you get a decent readership, would the time spent doing it be worth it, (assuming you have ad income from said blog)? 

6 --- Look into cashing in old 401K left over from old job?  Is it worth the penalties you would be assessed for doing so?  If your lifelong (and un-contributed-to for 8 years) 401K had about $75K in it, how much of that would you actually get to keep?  How many years would you expect to be able to stretch it out to supplement your current MTSO income?  Or would you consider that a really stupid idea? 

Okay, there is today's current state of affairs in my life.  If you suddenly woke up tomorrow morning and this was your reality, what would you do, (or not do), and in what order?  When would it be time to panic?  

Your "personal qualities":    You have a hard time staying focused - your mind wanders a lot.  You're uncomfortable standing for long periods of time, but can sit forever.  You DETEST a noisy environment.  You can be charming for short periods of time, but not that much of a people-person.   When you're irritated, that latter quality comes to the surface very quickly.   You detest phones.   You prefer email and IM as your communication form of choice.  You're not very organized.   You are creative when it comes to problem solving on a physical, spatial-relations level.  You stink at math.  You tend to "think outside the box", to the point that most mainstream minds consider you a bit odd.  You love to write, but don't like to do a lot of reading.   You frequently "skim" instructions, and invariably leave something out when you perform the instructed task.   You love to create things:  Sewing, drawing, using hammers/nails/saws, etc., making ordinary objects prettier by decorating them.  Your confidence in yourself is beginning to slide, because you've reached that magic age where you realize your life, both personal and working, is not going to go on forever. 

Whaddya Do?  

It's very easy to pretend I'm you, Pretend. I almost am. - Anon.

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#1: Figure out why as a good MT you are isn't making as much as other good MTs. Seriously! No way you're likely to even approach their level of earnings at an outside job. Your marketable skills are in MT. Put your brain in gear and find out what you need to do to bring in $50K/year full time, or less if less is needed and you don't want to work full time.

#2: If you're one of the unfortunates who just cannot get good at editing, and not feeling adventurous, brush up on general office programs and see if you can't find a job in civil service with good benefits. Maybe a school clerk watching the sturm and drang of teen life from a safe distance or something equally different from now by also safe? Adventurous?...wide open.

#3. Simplify your life so it's even better with less. Sell your home in the burbs (or whatever) and buy a little urban house or condo in walking distance of markets and employment and on a bus line to amenities for $25K (quick before they disappear). A few weeks ago I had some fun fantasizing that I was free to do something like that, browsing foreclosures of little cottages around the country. Little artsy town in the Adirondacks with an old garden, across a boulevard from Lake Michigan with 5 locks on the door, an hour from Manhattan in the center of an old town, on 18 acres in Arizona with a view off into New Mexico, back to the Northern California coast and those lovely windy gray days, same in Nova Scotia with day trips to Quebec. Sigh... :)

Well, (addt'l. info.) - (s/m)

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Re: #1: I never even made $50K during my peak earning years, paid hourly inhouse. Right now, in order to get anywhere near that I'd have to work 24/7, and not sleep. And it would have to be 3 jobs, no overtime, cause i live in CA.

Re: #2: I'm good at editing, but what we get to edit is ESLs who shouldn't be on VR at all to begin with. So it takes just as long to edit as it would to type it. All for half the pay. I don't mind editing, but I need to be paid a respectable line rate for it, not rupees. Looked into CA state jobs, but our state is broke, laying off people left and right, and doing away with bennies. Prob. not a good choice for me.

Re: #3: I don't own a house, never have. I rent a very small, studio-sized 1-br. Have to live in the semi-boonies because anywhere near a town with jobs is too expensive. I work off part of my rent managing the building. There's just never anything left after I pay the bills. My pets were out of food yesterday, so I stood in line for an hour at the recyclers, and got $7.30 for my alum. cans. That bought me enough pet food to get them to next payday, plus a small-sized carton of milk at Walmart. I can get by, and make-do on nothing, but I'm just really worried about what my future will be like.

In that case - Judy

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In that case, maybe the option of a new or different MT job is exactly what you need to investigate. There are jobs where the VR is not all ESLs. I have not worked on all platforms, but I have noticed that the EditScript platform seems to do well in learning difficult dictators.
Goodness, Pretend, - Anon.
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You do make it all sound hopeless. I want to offer something that might help, or at least make you feel better, but agreeing that you might as well go take some low-skill job, empty out your savings, play around with eBay until you decide you can't affordit, and then when old enough go live in a government-subsidized SRO just doesn't seem very kind.

So here goes. Absolutely what I would do: Your best course by far (one many others would kill to have at this point!) is to build on the excellent asset you have in your MT/ME skills and dramatically increase your income in the process. If you're making only $20K per year, aim for $30K. Literally hundreds of people editing and transcribing heavy ESL at my large MTSO make that, and more. $30K is a low-average income. If you're going broke on that, aim for $40K. Why on earth not you?

You CAN do just as well as others, and likely better than most if you choose. Your grammar's fine, you obviously can type, you presumably know medical perfectly adequately after all these years. You NEED to work on what's keeping your income too low to live on. Don't worry about a new MTSO right now. Start by learning how to make more money. Search for answers right here on this forum, and others. People often post about what works for them. Get a piece of paper and start writing them down. You don't have to be among the best (although I suspect you may have it in you) to make a whole lot more than you obviously are now, just average, and that's very reachable.

Antsy? Could it be menopause? That was its effect on me. I had a terrible time sitting still, often jumping up to do...nothing as it turned out. Hated work during that period. I needed help but never got it, thinking it'd pass sooner than it did.

Above all, though, address your attitude. Tremendously important! You will increase your income substantially, pretty easily too, IF you decide it's possible and just do it. Replace your list of complaints (including ESL and editing since those ARE the job these days) with a list of things to be glad of. Post it on your wall.

Whenever I get tired and bored, I often try reminding myself how fortunate I am to be able to do this calm easy work at home. It still works after all these years because it's true for me. It wouldn't be true if I were always scowling at the screen and the problems I imagined I saw there.

BTW, regarding those little $15-30K foreclosed houses I mentioned, some government programs help purchasers buy with as little as $100 down. Many are rural but by far the highest numbers and some of the niceset ones are in cities, most in low-income neighborhoods but not all high in crime, usually with good internet connection, and often very close to amenities.

My fantasies involved fixing one up and making a lovely little garden outside. You don't mention gardening, but you are energetic and creative... How about fixing up for yourself a little 2-bedroom brick house in central Savannah, within walking distance to the trolley or bus and thus a close hop to parks, summer concerts, art galleries, shops, harbor?

Anyway, as energy prices continue to rise across the board, there's going to be a renaissance in city living as living closer to jobs and amenities becomes increasingly more desirable. Many poor areas of today will be reborn as the charming and livable neighborhoods they once were.
Lots of great advice there - THANKS! (nm) - - Pretend
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All bets are off if you live in California - California is for the rich unfortunately

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Unless you are rich, the cost of living in California is just too high. It's beautiful, but until things are more fair, only the rich can afford that beauty.
That is ridiculous . . . I have - SoCal MT
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Lived in California all my life except for a 14-year stint in Utah. The cost of living was very similar. Housing is more expensive in California, but utilities in Utah were through the roof. The same is true of groceries, clothing, etc. Some items were more expensive in one place and less in the other (cereal comes to mind . . . VERY expensive, for some unknown reason, in Utah).

Wages are definitely higher in California which would more than compensate for any higher costs, if there were indeed any.

Every state has its differences. California is a great state, and not only the rich live here. :)
California - Old Pro
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California has rapidly become a place where only the very poor or the very wealthy can survive. Gas is now 4 bucks a gallon. And real estate? Fuddetaboutit.

Good suggestions, but don't touch that 401-K - Do what you know

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Much as we all hate to think about it, there is age discrimination out there. I'm older than you so I can say that. Explore other MTSOs until you find one where you make more money. Don't give up one job until you find a better one. Sure, do some creative work and sell it, but you probablyl aren't going to be able to produce and sell enough to support yourself. Again, give it a try while you keep your "day job" and if it works, it works.

Know that everyone is hurting these days, many with no job at all and homeless. It's a big problem. You don't solve your own situation by giving up a job.

Consider moving to a city or state with lower cost of living. Downsize. Be creative with marketing your embroidery and things you make with your own hands. Don't touch that 401-K. That's a bad idea. You'll be glad you didn't. Get smarter with the way you do your medical transcription (editing), etc. Be better than the average MT. Be smarter in the way you go about finding the right employer.

Thanks for the ideas - that's why I posted this, - was to get feedback and perspective! -nm

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Amen to that! - ticchick

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I made that mistake of touching my 401K, and not only was it wiped out within about a year to a year and a half, but when it came to pay taxes that year I was royally screwed. I had no idea it would be THAT bad. It got me through a rough time but if I had to do it over again I would find ANY other solution than that one.

My opinion - what I would do

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I'm just a tad bit younger than you and I've actually thought this all through recently, pretty much just like you have listed with all of the options.

My conclusion (for myself) was a cross between #3 and #2: Sit tight while waiting for my SS benefits to start, but also at the same time keep my ears and eyes open for a better MT position than the one I have currently. And since SS is based on my last few years of earnings, I intend to enter that period with a full-time job plus at least 1 or 2 part time jobs, in order to get those final earning years up higher which will (hopefully) result in a higher SS check.

At my age, it's just not really feasible to go back to school to retrain. I'd be graduating about the same time that I become eligible for Social Security.

A side business like ebay is a good idea to keep on the back burner, something that you could do while MT'ing. But in my experience, hand crafted items like embroidery really don't bring much of a profit. Hand crafted items are more of a labor of love, lots of time spent creating in comparison to the amount of money sold for. If I was looking to make extra money on ebay, I think it would be better to try to find some kind of product to sell, one that you could buy cheaply enough to be able to make some kind of a decent profit on when you sell it.

And finally, I don't know about anything about a 401K, only because I don't have one.

Anyway, those are just my own personal thoughts, having thought about all of these very same things in recent months.

Okay here goes. Nothing I say is meant as derogatory. - me

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I don't know you and am only responding to what you have posted. You are too old to go back to school if you are looking for a new career (if for personal enjoyment that is a whole different story). You struggled with it first time and you'll be too old for someone to want to hire you when you get through (sad but a fact of life). The competion for jobs right now is very stiff, so you need to be the best, brightest, prettiest, etc. You could be a greeter at Wal-Mart, but then you don't like people very well so that wouldn't be a good choice.

You sound like you have ADHD. Maybe starting some type of medication will help you stay focused and more organized. Everything you describe is so typical for ADHD.

It sounds like your strengths are in creating and I would look for ways to build on that. Do alterations or sew for people, make birdhouses and decorate them. You might not make a lot of money, but I know people who live simple lifestyles and are able to survive on their writing. They write ads, margazine articles, etc. You would have to do some research to find out how to get started.

I wouldn't recommend selling on e-bay as someone else suggested because you stated you had trouble focusing and were disorganized, which are not good traits to keep up with placing ads and getting items shipped out in a timely fashion and if you have quantity then you might mix up a shipment.

There are programs in most states that help people with pet food, at least short term. Our shelter was getting so many surrendered pets they were running out of room so started providing food if it would help someone keep their pets. Use coupons if you don't already. See if you qualify for food stamps. Try to barter your handyman type things for full rent. Can you paint apartments, do the cleaning when someone moves out, do simple repairs?

I don't know what the penalities would be on your 401K, but I would only touch that as a last resort. I don't mean to discourage you, but as bad as times seem right now, there may be worse times ahead - not this year, but maybe 5 years from now, and you'll need that money even if you're getting SS. My DS lost his job of 9 years about 6 months ago. We are making it, but there is not a penny extra for unexpected expenses. I have 6% of my income put in my 401K because my company matches that much. I struggle about every other month with stopping it because while the extra money isn't going to solve all the money issues it would give us more breathing room, but I leave it alone for now. Surely there has to be better times around the corner and when I'm ready to retire I'll be glad I left the money alone.

Call your local senior services office and see if they have jobs available. I'd hold onto the MT job as long as you feel like you are still doing a good job, but supplement with some of the other things until you have a chance to be able to make enough money in a different way to support yourself without counting pennies.

I feel for you. I've still got 20 years left to work, but I know I'll never make it in this industry (don't want to). DH and I plan to live a very simple life after the kids are gone so that we are in a comfortable position when we are older. We do have 2 incomes (well we did) so my situation is different. My cost of living is also less than yours.

Start looking at your local Freecyele (www.freecycle.org) or CraigsList (CraigsList.com). People are frequently giving away pet food or extra human food. CraigsList also has various job listings, though you have to be careful as there are some scams. I've also sold a lot of things on CraigsList. You don't have to worry about shipping, I deal with cash only. If you are in a building you could meet in front of the building so no one knew where you lived and you could arrange for another tenant to be nearby if you were concerned about safety.

There are lots of options to help supplement your income, but can't think of much that will be enough FT income, at least initially.

Good feedback and ideas. Thank you! - - Pretend

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Craigslist - me

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If anyone posts on craigslist they need to post only what they are willing to do and only answer ads they can commit to. I posted several odd jobs on there the past year and I have had to schedule 3 people, only needing 1, because 2 don't show up and don't even let us know.

Go back to school; become RHIT; work as Med Rec Administrator. - NM

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nm

Bad idea! How many MR administrator jobs do you think there are?! - Not a good option plus age discrimination

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You might do well as a medical coder, but there may even be age discrimination there unless you are a certified coder. To be really good at that, you're going to need at least a year to do the training and then add some months of job search, which is normal in any job field these days. That might work, but the medical records administrator idea is unlikely to get you a job. It sounds good, but there aren't very many openings. What do they do? Mainly get initials after their name. It's an academic achievement, but not much of a job opportunity.

Coding would be great too. - I hear the money is good there too.

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Either way it's going to take going back to school and it can be done on-line these days. Good idea.
I would get into coding in a heartbeat if I didn't - think it was going to end up offshored like MT.
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My vote is go back to school for RHIT or RHIA - I second what NM said.

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Take the money out of your 401K. It will be tax free (I think) if you take it out for education.

I'm looking for a sugar daddy myself... - no message. (other than show me the money)

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got a brother? rich uncle?

Me too - Not joking

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Cheers.

Yeah I had the opp to do that 15 yrs ago but stupid me, thought - I could make it on my own (with my MT job). Hindsi

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(continued) Hindsight is 20/20. I'm going down fast - and rue the day I chose MT. nm
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Many of us would say that MT is and has been very good to us - when other jobs are not to be had at all
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Nothing is great these days, but compared to jobs friends have in real estate, construction, sales, and even some technology positions, this isn't so bad. Okay, it's all bad these days, but relatively speaking, it's better than a poke in the eye with a stick.
yeah,MT-ing has made me what I am today! beat up, worn, torn. - looking foir that SUGAR. NM
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Although I worry about the future, at present MT is - treating me just fine. I am very glad
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to have decent-paying work in these hard times. In fact, I'm helping my kids buy a house, something they can't do for themselves right now because their business has been hard hit.
LOL - gotta remember that stick-in-eye theory! - (that was funny!) - Pretend
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Just my opinion - Judy

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1. Ebay might work, but it is very saturated right now. I've made some items and posted them for sale there. I thought they were quite cute but they did not all sell. In the end, I lost money in supplies used and time spent. I have had some luck with selling gently-used clothing, either mine or stuff that was given to me or found cheap at garage sales. But, this is not enough to live on.

2. Check out network marketing/sales opportunities. There are many current opportunities these days that are not pyramid schemes, do not cost an arm and a leg to start, and will actually bring in extra money. This is especially good for someone who has an interest in wellness/weight loss, etc.

3. There could be other MT jobs that are better than the one you have, but due to the learning curve, might work out much better if part-time at first, while you continue your other job, if that is physically possible.

4. For any job that you apply for, do not give any hint of your age. Leave out dates for such things as when you graduated from high school and college.

5. Regarding cashing in the 401K, well you just don't know what is in store down the road, how long you will live, etc., so that is a judgment call.

6. At age 62, is early social security an option? If so, I say take it. I'm going to do this as soon as I am old enough, which is not long off.

Good luck!

Thanks! Yes, I'm still holding off on cashing in - the 401K. (Hoping it will grow). nm

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FYI, SS is based on an average of your highest - sm - ECMT

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(I believe) 5 years of employment (not the last 5 unless they are your highest of course) though see below SS is a bit confusing-----

from SS site: Many people wonder how their benefit is figured. Social Security benefits are based on your lifetime earnings. Your actual earnings are adjusted or "indexed" to account for changes in average wages since the year the earnings were received. Then Social Security calculates your average indexed monthly earnings during the 35 years in which you earned the most. We apply a formula to these earnings and arrive at your basic benefit, or "primary insurance amount" (PIA). This is how much you would receive at your full retirement age—65 or older, depending on your date of birth.

Bless you for posting this info about how SS is figured! - Posts above had me badly confused

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I was ready to go out and grab my SS fast, thinking that if I make less next year in this horrible economy, I was causing my future SS checks to go down.

That isn't the case at all.

Thank you for posting this very helpful information.

Yes! Thank you very much for correct info! - jemma

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Will retire in 4 years---was sick at heart after reading that other post about SS. Thanks so much for correcting the misinformation!

That's good to know, especially since I made more - money during most of my working life. nm

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I'm doing much MUCH better now so I better put in a few more years - at the better income rate

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My earlier years were sad and pathetic and a lot of other negative words. I'm hoping my current rate will hold in there until (and if) the economy improves.

I think a lot of the problem is what you where you live. - Rooty Tooty

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Where do you live? What is the median income? Wikipedia will tell you what it is. I live in a small town in Missouri, population is about 25,000, and the median income for a year for a single person is $22,000 and the median income for a family was $28,800.

My daughter just bought a house for $82,000 for herself and her 2 children. It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home and has a back deck and an above ground pool. This also includes the lot beside her, which is empty. It has a garage attached, too.

The house is 11 years old. She did not have a down payment. Her payment is $625.00 a month with taxes and insurance included. Her light bill is never more than $120.00 and that is in the summer with the air condition going full blast. Yearly average is about $68.00 average. It's an all electric house.

Her water bill was $40.00 a month which is wicked high for this area. It was high because she is out in the country and they installed a sewer system and this is her portion of the bill for the next 5 years. All of the neighbors have to pay it, then it will go back down to about $15.00 a month at the end of 5 years.

So, how much is living expenses in your area?

Here, I think a one bedroom apartment goes for about $250.00 with utilites included.

A ferry? In California? - Rooty Tooty

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Did you say you live in CA and have to use a ferry to get to the mainland? Are we talking about Catalina Island? I'm not being snarky. I acutally feel for you. I know how hard it would be to relocate, but I think that is the problem.

In the San Fran area, they have a lot of ferries to - get people across the bay.

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n/m
I would LOVE to live on an island of the coast of CA. - Rooty Tooty
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That sounds heavenly to me. My idea of paradise.

What I would do - rambling on

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First thing I would do is consider moving. Is there anything that would prevent you from doing this (besides money)? Do you have family/friends that live in another state that would help you get started? With your current at-home job, you really can do this much easier than most.

Do some research on other areas, such as cost of living, available jobs, etc. Once you've settled on a place to move to, pick up a second job (whether you like it or not) to earn some extra cash to start saving for your move.

Once you get to your new location, continue working from home while searching for a local job that you would like. Definitely check the state/civil service jobs. I currently have one and the benefits are better than anywhere I've ever worked.

I do think it might be a little late to go back to school, unless you are doing it for personal reasons. I think the cost of returning to school will far outweigh any financial gain and could actually make it worse for you.

I would also consult with a financial advisor before touching the 401K. Perhaps someone at your bank could explain the penalties involved. At 62, there may be fewer penalties (59-1/2 sticks out in my mind for some reason) and the money could help you relocate.

My reason for suggesting relocation is that CA, as you are aware, is flat broke. Furthermore, I believe there are some companies that won't hire MTs who live in CA for minimum wage (?) requirements. This may have changed, so I would check into that.

Good luck!

I think you & everyone else is right about going - back to school. And yes, - sm

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I've had job applications rejected because I live in CA. The tougher employment laws are MEANT to protect the worker, but for those of us who work for out-of-state companies, it hurts us.

All my friends and family are HERE, which is one of many reasons I don't plan to move. There are more job opportunities in So. Calif., but as you know, So-Cal and Nor-Cal are like 2 completely different states, and of the two, I prefer Nor-Cal.

There are lots of ads currently running for MTs for the State prisons and mental hospitals. But in the current economy, I find it hard to believe they're actually hiring, and I certainly wouldn't want to be a recently-hired worker.

suggestions, but chiming in late... - anon2preventthenastylurkers

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1) I think you are allowed to tap your 401K now. I'm not positive, but I do know that if your 401K were an IRA (which it could be if you rolled it into one), an IRA can be tapped at age 59-1/2 without penalty. 75K won't last very long as a sole income, but as a secondary supplement, it might help for awhile longer.

2) You can receive "early" retirement benefits from SS, but your monthly payment will be significantly lower for the rest of your life as a result. Combined with option #1 above, however, it might help significantly while you are still healthy and active. You would run into problems later on if you were no longer able to generate any income from working at all.

3) Given that you say you don't like schooling, I would avoid that option if I were you. Yes, you probably could get school loans for it, even at age 62, but I wonder if it would be worth it? Furthermore, an ABA-approved paralegal course requires on-site attendance for a certain number of credit hours of the degree. An online-"only" course for paralegal is probably not possible.

4) I am the most un-artistic person you'd ever want to meet, so I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions there.

5) Yes, continuing to look for another in-house MT job is probably a great idea, but it will probably require a great deal of patience. Good payoff though, if you can find a good one!

Best wishes to you! Being an MT for almost 40 years is quite an accomplishment!

Thanks for your reply! -s/m - - Pretend

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Re:

1 - Yes, it was rolled into an IRA. I'm determined to only tap into it when it becomes absolutely necessary. I'm 62, but pass for 42, and longevity runs in my family, many in the late 90s-100s. So I have to stretch that money as far as it'll go.

2 - Ditto for the SS money. I'm going to try to hold out until 67 or later to start collecting it.

3 - Yes, school sucks. And what I really hate about it is when there's a course you want to take, you have to take a lot of prerequisite courses before you even get to the meat of the education. Years ago I took a community college computer course. Back then, it was because everyone was getting Wang PCs. I had already worked on other PCs before, but needed to learn Wang. I was currently an MT, with many years of experience. Yet I had to take "The History of Word Processing", and an IBM Memory Typewriter course (??) before I could qualify to learn the Wang. So 2 wasted semesters before I even got into the Wang class. By the time I finished that course, my employer had already changed their mind, and bought an IBM PC, instead.

No kidding! I know a community college that makes MTs learn an outdated spreadsheet (not Excel) - They sometimes lack common sense

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The obsolete spreadsheet problem isn't a prerequisite, but more of a "filler" because they don't have a qualified MT instructor and they also are limited on the transcription practice. So they teach an outdated spreadsheet program. Even if they had been teaching Excel in the MT program it would have been inappropriate, but an outdated one that nobody uses. Where is the common sense these days?!

Pretend You Are Me - Cindy

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I think you'd make a great skip tracer. They work for private detective agencies or collection agencies. You use the Internet, etc. to find people. It's not always for folks who owe money. Sometimes it's in relation to finding folks who are hired by PIs. You could also do research for law offices. You don't need a paralegal certificate for that. I know what you mean about the telephone. If it weren't for my kids, no one in my house would answer the phone!

That's very interesting that you mention - sm - - Pretend

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skip-tracing. Many, many years ago, long before I was an MT, I was looking for an office job that fit. (Most did not). I got a job in the Mastercard division of Security Pacific Bank. I was about 22 years old at the time. Their training was absurd. I had all these typing skills, filing skills, teletype, 10-key, Addressograph, etc., but instead of putting me in the secretarial pool, they sent me upstairs to the skip-tracing department. I found the concept very interesting, but my "training" consisted of sitting there all day long, WATCHING somebody make phone calls. Although I thought it was interesting how shifty she had to be in order to catch up to some of these people (she did quite a bit of impersonation... of friends, relatives, etc., to gain access to new addresses and new phone numbers of the delinquent accounts), I was bored to tears. I starting wishing I could at least stuff envelopes, and saw this leading nowhere, so I quit after just 2 weeks. I did get to look up some numbers in the reverse phone directory, which was very interesting to me, as I never knew such a thing even existed. Six months after I'd quit that job, I had the need of a phone number where I only knew the address, not the name of the person. Being a 22-year-old with a lot of chutzpah, I actually went back to the Mastercard office, (where you had to wear a badge and walk through a metal detector and past a guard to get in), and with no ID or badge or anything else, I just smiled, batted my eyelashes, and acted like I belonged there, and walked right in. It's a wonder I didn't get arrested. I went up to the 3rd floor where the reverse directories were located, and got my needed info. Since then, just with what little I'd learned about locating people during my short stay at Mastercard, I was able to get some valuable information on the criminal history of somebody I had met, and was suspicious of. As it turned out, my suspicions were correct - he had a rap sheet a mile long of previous felonies. I was able to gain all this info., including info. I wasn't supposed to have, by searching the internet, something I love to do, and am getting better at all the time, though I would by no means call myself an expert. Anyway, that's an interesting idea you threw out there, and maybe there's some kind of a job that could put those skills and interests to good use.

Thanks for your valuable feedback!

Retire in a heartbeat! - Mollie

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I would retire in a heartbeat - can't wait until I'm 62-1/2.

What I've done, so far... - Californian too

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If it weren't for the fact that most of what's left of my family is here, and I was born here, moving elsewhere might be an option. But right now I really don't feel any urge to move, so I'm doing whatever I can to make do with what I've got here.

I've done pretty much all of the money-saving suggestions I've seen posted in various places. I don't go out to eat except very rarely, I don't buy a fancy Starbucks every day, etc. Since I no longer have a commute, I was able to get my car insurance rate lowered. I have everything possible plugged into power strips that only get turned on when the item is being used--including the microwave and coffeemaker. I hardly ever turn on the heat, and use sweaters a lot. I canceled the long distance on my land line. I have a prepaid cell phone that I don't use very much, and I use that for long distance. I buy almost everything with an airline miles credit card--and pay it off every single month to avoid interest payments. I put every potential purchase to the "need versus greed" test, and if it's a greed, not a need, I seldom buy it, although one simply MUST treat oneself once in a while. Even so, there's no need to be extravagant with one's treats.

I've been at this for nearly 40 years myself, and am still doing everything I can to try to upgrade my skills, and my speed. I'm still adding new shortcuts to my expander nearly every day. I have one part-time local transcription job as an IC, and might have a line on another, in addition to my full-time job with a national service, where I am an employee, and they DO hire in California, thank heaven, although there's no cost-of-living differential.

I've started selling a few things on ebay, in the interests of what you might call inventory reduction. It's been mostly books so far, books I know I'll never read again. I've also offered a few CDs for sale but no one has bought any of those yet. I only list items for sale (or re-list unsold ones) when it's a free-listings time, and I've gotten creative with my packaging. I have a box of Tyvek mailing envelopes that dates back to I-don't-even-remember-when, and I wrap books in a few layers of newspaper, stuff 'em into a Tyvek envelope, and voila! Instant padded mailer at no extra cost. I have more books in storage, some of them collectible, and as soon as I get around to it, I'll put those up for sale too--but only when listings are free. I haven't made a lot of money, but even a few extra dollars come in handy.

One thing that some folks here talked about some time back was sermon transcription. I never looked into it extensively, but there are online services that do that kind of work. You might Google that and see what comes up; perhaps get a small part-time gig doing that. I have no idea what the pay rates might be for that sort of thing.

I too do NOT recommend hitting the 401k unless you have exhausted all other possible choices. Same goes for not starting to collect SS until, again, you have no other choice. That's my own plan.

And I haven't ruled out a sugar daddy, although considering the fact that I don't even date, that might be kind of difficult....... :)

Not a long answer at the moment, but I just had - to say quickly SM

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after just reading this: I LIKE YOU.:) Looks silly in writing, I know, hope you get what I mean.

I do. Thanks! ;) - nm

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