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Coding offer - isn't everyone missing one KEY component? - anon


Posted: Mar 11, 2014

Nowhere in Duncan's email did he state what these coders will earn after the training.  For some of you this may not be a big deal and the focus may be on getting out of transcription, but what if at the end of the 3 months you were told you would be paid minimum wage for the next 2 years?  You have no way out then, except to repay the thousands of dollars they have invested in your training, and suddenly you're paying to work for MModal instead of the other way around. 

This sounds like the "Gold Rush" of the 1800s to me.  People were so desperate in their life situations that when they heard the word "gold" they ran.  When they got there, it had already been picked over and the mines were abandoned, making their lives even worse.  Don't be fooled by the gold, ladies ... we're all desperate but there are a few key components missing from these promises.

I admit it's a shiny glittery thing that they're luring us with and I thought a lot about it overnight but ALL of my friends and family are advising me to find out what MModal is PAYING after the training before I make ANY decisions.  I'm a single mom and there is no way I can afford to work for minimum wage or anywhere close for the next 2 weeks, muchless the next 2 years. 

Lastly - don't forget who we're dealing with.  I have very often compared MModal operations to a carnival game.  While they are showing you something shiny in one hand, the "trick" is being played with the other.  I've worked here for about 15 years and never, not even ONCE have I ever seen this company do anything even remotely beneficial to the employee.  Not even ONCE. 

ASK QUESTIONS.  Find out more information before you decide.  What they will be paying for the next 2 years is a BIG one.  Keep in mind that what they will be paying will benefit THEM and NOT the employee.  If that's OK for your situation then this sounds like a good deal ... but not offering up that information from the beginning and oddly leaving it out of the email is a huge red flag to me.

"The best predicter of future behavior is past behavior" - Albert Ellis

they could possibly charge your hourly rate for payback, - in addition to bonuses and ...

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The wages of trainers, etc... there is no way of knowing what the cost they could charge will be because they arent telling you.

What if the payback alone is your hourly rate times the hours of training? For example, $15 an hour for 20 hours for 12 weeks is $3600... plus the additional 2 months apprentice of $15 per hour for 40 hours for 8 weeks of $4800... plus any bonuses. That could well exceed $8400! How ya gonna pay that?

Also... what happens to your PTO when you drop to part time?

That's what scares me - this is probably a ploy - anon

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Think of the money they could make off this scheme - it would be a HUGE shot of cash flow into their bankrupt pockets.

No thanks. If I get into Coding it will be on MY terms and with a reputable company, not one that is notorious for getting rich off the backs of its workers. Only this time it feels like they are exploiting our desperation and it feels a little creepy to me.

I'm concerned about the - sm

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If you leave voluntarily, you will be required to pay back the costs. While I totally understand there are costs for them, the thought of being stuck with no option scares the heck out of me. Not sure coding is what I want to do, but I know transcription is going by the wayside. Would be nice to get "free" training just really suspect of this. Pretty sad that we have to look for reasons to pick apart a good opportunity, any other company, this would be a great opportunity.
I guess - we need to. sm
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First ask, what the cost of the training is, should we decide to leave.

Second ask, what the compenstation rate is.

And what really stinks is...That they will change your schedule to meet their needs. I like my schedule, I actually had a say in it.

If I go into this, I want a contract with them that doesn't allow them to change the terms in the middle.

Can someone tell me what email you are talking - whodat

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about concerning coding ~ when was it sent out? Thanks

It was sent out by Duncan yesterday afternoon - NM

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NM

at home coding - mt

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I think coding jobs aren't usually at home jobs like transcription, so a positive point about this is that you have the opportunity to work at home, if this is important to you.

will learning this from MM get you a coding certification? Or - will you just be able to do coding for MM?

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You can just study coding books & test to be certified. - Doesnt require special classes, just passing the t

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Too True - Annie

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Plus why would ANYONE even consider doing this when the company is going through bankruptcy and since it's their first training program.

Key questions for me - CT

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Here are my key questions:
Recognized and accredited program? Accreditation after training? CCS, CCS-P, RHIT, RHIA?
Available to SHDAs also?
Guaranteed weekday shifts available for those who cannot work weekends/evenings on a regular/reliable basis?
What will this be paid? Per chart? In-patient v Out-patient? What is the anticipated average hourly based on that rate for someone out of training? 6 months, 12 months, 2 years?
Does this move from FT to PT based on the 20 hours of training and only 20 hours of production time?
Do you still accrue PTO at the same rate?
Does this affect any benefits?
Are you eligible for bonuses/OT as before outside of the training 20 and production 20?
What is the cost of "paying back" the training if you leave MM before the 2-year period?
How are teams formed and what are the upward mobility possibilities?
If you are moved to a position outside of coding within MM, are you still required to payback training?

Yes those are all good questions - anon

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And suspiciously, ALL of those questions were left out of his email yesterday. That speaks volumes to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if they paid by the chart - SM

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and they monitored you continuously like they do now with MT/ME. Also probably deduct pay for any little infraction, not making chart count, etc. Just saying...

Coding Offer - grtmt

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Then why do you still work for them??There's a great deal of MModal bashing going on here. You all should appreciate the jobs you do have....there's always someone else in line behind you to take it if you don't want it.

I agree with you grtmt - please leave if you dont like it here

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i still make a good wage here, looking forward to the coding program. I have already been told I will be tested and can't wait!

"A fool and his money are soon parted." - And they saw you coming.

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Ahh, the old "if you dont like it, leave" - routine

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so nice of you to drop in with your ultimatum.

Aren't you concerned at all that there is NO mention of pay? - anon

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What are they hiding? That would be the most important question with any job - what do they pay. Especially with M*Modal, who currently employ offshore coders and have for years. I've been trying to research to find what they are paid. Also, the computer-assisted coding is done on a Fluency for Coding platform. VR on Fluency is terrible, so that raises more questions for me.
Yes, why aren't they saying what the pay - will start at after training?
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It's a vital piece of information. Why would anyone in their right mind jump into this not knowing the pay????

They state what the pay rate is for MTs, so why not the coders?


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