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Suggestion to aid with income-related discussions. - sm


Posted: Aug 10, 2012

I've noticed that we need some sort of standard reference or metric to use when we talk about income-related issues, and this metric should not merely reference dollars (or cents), but should relate this to <i>a unit of time</i>.  At the end of the day, it's how much you earned per unit of time that really matters, and this the only sort of metric that takes into account all of the variables that a mere monetary reference such as "line rate" does not.

The line rate paid by two different employers might be identical, and yet the same MT might only earn half as much working for one of them compared with the other.  Differences in transcription platforms, clerical/demographic complexities, the nature of the content (complexity), characteristics of dictators, availability (and payment for) of templates ("normals"), and the availability of work itself all translate the "line rate" into something that in practical terms is quite different from one employer to another, although numerically they might be the same.

Whenever I am interviewing a prospective employer (and yes, I do interview THEM), I ask a question:  What do your senior MTs earn per hour, on average - over the course of a year?  I ask this because (a) I'm a senior MT, and I expect to achieve that level of productivity after a reasonable period of adaptation, (b) this is the one number that translates absolutely every variable about the platform, the work, the availability of work, the dictators, etc. into a single number that can be compared with others.

It has never failed.  Not one employer - or recruiter - has ever been able to give me this number - and yet it's the equivalent of someone at McDonald's being able to tell and applicant how much they'll earn per hour, or how much you're offering to pay an accountant.  As such, you'd think this would be something they would make sure they know, wouldn't you?  How much are our senior people earning per hour?  They're not interested in knowing this - even for their own information?

Okay - but I think we do know - or can track - our hourly earnings and should use this in our discussions whenever possible, rather than line rates.

And when we use "average earnings per hour", I suggest that we make sure we are including hours that we are "on duty", available for work, but there is no work available.

If we can agree on a common earnings metric such as this, we'll reduce all of the variables to a fairly understandable number that we can then use to compare and contrast changes in earnings over time, differences in earnings between employers, etc.  If we do NOT use some sort of commonly understood metric that takes all of the variables into account, we're often going to be talking about very different things and not understanding one another.

 

 

 

 

Is this vern? You seem to throw the term metrics - around a whole lot...

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Sounds like some townhall meeting I attended once.

I tend to agree....lost interest after the second sentence. - anon

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we do not need a math genious to tell us we aren't making enough money, be it per line or per hour, or annually.

How bout this... - we just get paid

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XX amount of dollars an hour based on experience or what you think we're worth to come in and work every day plus incentives on top of that. There... was that so hard?

Sorry I bored you. I was just saying that "line rate" isn't an adequate - way to talk about pay in our industry.

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And incidentally, as long as the MTSO's can keep us talking about "line rates" they can be sure that we'll never get around to talking about real hourly pay rates in our industry.
The more complicated they make the pay system, the - more easily they cheat their MTs. nm
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Absolutely! These days, paying by the hour is distinctly possible even - for remote workers. sm
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Today it is child's play to pay remote workers by the hour - especially when the work they do is being done on the company platform - with very little risk that anyone would be able to cheat the system successfully.

They don't pay by the hour for all of the same reasons that they prefer for us to be remote, isolated from one another, and relatively ignorant about many corporate matters even when they affect us.


When we were outsourced our employers - provided

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All that information. We had a meeting and the company they outsourced was there. At the end of the meeting I went up to ask my supervisor a couple of questions and saw a note pad on the table with a list of all our names, how much we made, what our incentives were and how long we had been there.

Sounds like that is the kind of info you are seeking? Simply ask for something like that to better aid you in submitting offers to your MTs.

I can guarantee you, if you want any of the hospital/clients MTs to come on board for your company, you had better not put 4 cpl in the offer. They will collect their severance pay and then unemployment before they go for that.

Hope this helps.

I'm an MT, not an MTSO. - sm

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I'm just suggesting that we need some common way to talk about earnings on forums like this one because "line rate" doesn't make allowances for all of the variables (different platforms, etc.)...

and I would just like to add..... - anon

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that even though you think line rates do not make allowances for all of the variables, neither does an hourly wage. I just experienced a situation where someone was offering $11 an hour for transcription. I thought "cool, an hourly position." I applied and tested. The test was 9 minutes long and at least 150/65 character lines. It took me 24 minutes to complete, and could have been less had I been "used to" the dictator, who happened to stutter and was hard to follow. So after I was done, I started thinking about the $11 an hour pay. This report alone, 150/65 character lines, say paying at 0.08 cents per line, would have generated $12 in pay. I could easily have done two of these types of reports in an hour. If this report was the norm for this particular dictator, accepting an hourly wage of $11 an hour, would definately have shot myself in the foot! They would be paying me less than half of what I could earn on a "line rate." and face it, most companies, if they were to pay on an "hourly rate" in today's economy, and with the mindset that MTs should not be paid much, they would not offer too much more than $10 an hour, where I COULD be making twice that much in an hour, if the reports mentioned above were the norm. So in my mind, an hourly wage is not the answer either. No matter what, these companies would definitely find a way to "screw us!"
You misunderstand. She wasn't talking about the "stated" hourly wage either - but about tracking our actual hourly earnings. sm
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...and our ACTUAL hourly earning number DOES take all of the variables into account, as she said.

Agree with this part... - (see message)

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....And when we use "average earnings per hour", I suggest that we make sure we are including hours that we are "on duty", available for work, but there is no work available.

I didn't usually count my NJA time in figuring what I made per hour because it was too depressing; but when I figured that in, too, my pay-per-hour dropped to waaaay below minimum wage. That's why I decided I couldn't keep working for an MTSO. ANY other job at all would pay at least minimum wage in my area, except for restaurant/waitstaff wages (but then they have to bump you up to $7.25/hr if you don't reach that with your tips, and you're not penalized if they have to do that).

Makes perfect sense to me - Tumbleweed

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I work 2 clients for the same company. One averages about $4. per hour and the other about $10. due to different variables. However, trying to get an MTSO to understand this to the point that they can come up with an hourly figure is about impossible without surveying their MTs, which I don't see happening as they just don't care.

If we were paid per hour it would solve this problem. Since we are not, we have to play 20 questions with recruiters trying to ascertain the platform, how much unpaid bookeeping we have to do for them. When I've asked about this, their reponse is "Oh, it really doesn't take that much time to ..." blah blah blah, but when add it all up - it's a considerable amount of work we do for free, something many companies have had to repay employees when a labor commissioner complaint is filed. If all these freebies we are required to give them "don't really take that much time" why don't they have their employees paid hourly do the work??

When it comes down to it, I agree with the OP, getting a quote for line rate is completely useless in determining how much you will be make per hour.

MTSOs are making a tremendous profit by complicating the variables and rates.


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