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Cannot seem to find the correct info regarding ICD-10 delay - sm

Posted: Apr 18, 2012

I last read that ICD-10 change is now delayed until October 2014. Can anyone confirm this?

The proposed date is October 1, 2014 - sm

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Try the AHIMA website for accurate information regarding this.

Not sure what you mean by being unable to find correct info, though. Everything I have seen says the same thing as the title of this post.

Heard this today...wondering about students. - Cassie

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I just heard the same thing (new Oct. 2014 date) today from a friend who's a coder. What does this mean for the people who are currently in school learning ICD-10? Or am I missing something?

Cassie -- What students are studying ICD-10 now? - Wondering what you heard

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Cassie, what students are currently in school studying ICD-10? I am not sure what you are asking.

Are you asking what about coders who are currently learning ICD-10? They can continue learning it. I learned it two years ago. Most of the training will provide CEUs for certification purposes. Learning something early is never a problem. You can review it later and it will all come back.

For current coders, learning it will not require taking an entire codng course all over again. Why would it? You already know how to code. All you need is information about a new code set that is similar to and used just like the old one. In any event, learning coding does not entail memorizing the code numbers themselves, so I do not understand why there would be a problem. If your coder friend has issues with it we would be happy to address those fears here. It might help to reduce some of it.

I cannot imagine that you would be talking about a coding course, one for people who had never coded before which taught them the whole job, that is teaching only ICD-10. It would be quite inappropriate, if not just plain irresponsible, for two reasons. One, every coder will need to know BOTH 9 and 10 for some time to come in order to code old claims and work with institutional data. Two, even if the date was October of 2013, graduates would be finishing programs so soon that if they did not know ICD-9 they would be unable to get a job for more than a year. What would be the point to that?

I do not know any coding prgram that is teaching only ICD-10 now. Someone last month said they had seen some on the internet. We asked if they could find them again, but the person never answered. I think they had seen courses intended for experienced coders. AHIMA has one that might look as though it is for student coders, but it is really for working coders. There are many others.

I tried to cover all possibilities in this answer, but perhaps you could explain what you meant?

Students in courses only teaching ICD-10 are left out in the cold anyway - sm

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It has never been a good idea to learn only ICD-10 as some schools promote. Now it's turning out to be even less of a good idea. If I were in that position as a student, I would start over, with a course that isn't so limited. Hope that answers your question.

WHAT schools only teach ICD-10?? - Never seen one

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nm

My question, as well. What schools only teach - ICD-10

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This is the second time you have made that statement about schools teaching only ICD-10. Last time, someone asked you to give the name of a school that did that. You were unable to do so, saying that you saw them on the internet and did not remember them.

I agree that you probably saw an ICD-10 course for experienced coders and mistakenly thought it was a course for people who wanted to learn coding from the ground up. Some of them might look like that becaue they often teach expanded A&P, pathophysiology, and other material, as well.

It probably isn't a big dea, but I don't think it is wise for us to keep going on about a "problem" that doesn't exist and turning it into an internet legend.

I agree that you should tell us what schools those are. Perhaps we can explain what you saw.

Not me. - Cassie

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Just want to clarify that I'm not the one who said that some schools are teaching only ICD-10. In fact, I am pretty ignorant about coding courses all together and have only asked questions here to, hopefully, clear up my ignorance. I don't want any hard feelings if I post on this forum in the future, as I get a vibe that there's some friction on this subject. :-)

Thanks for your input, Everyone.

What I Found Was Even Stranger Than Schools Only Teaching ICD-10 - See Message

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I did a search and found a long list of courses teaching ICD-10. I didn't have time to see if any of them were teaching it 'only', but it appears as if some are.

The strangest thing I found though had to do with fake credentialing organizations and schools trying to pretend they are AHIMA. Their names are just off by one letter. I found 2 of them without even looking. Someone who doesn't know better will think these are legitimate. It's definitely Buyer Beware out there. There are some sleazy con artists circling around like vultures.

Explanation - Coder

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Those ICD-10 courses are for people who are already coders. They are to help them transition to the new code set. They are teaching it "only," but it is not intended for people who are not already coders.

I don't think any courses for people who want TO BECOME coders are teaching only ICD-10. They have to teach ICD-9 because that is what is currently being used. They might teach ICD-10 along with that.

Thanks, Greyhound Mom - Cassie

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So sorry for the confusion about my question...I promise I didn't mean anything negative by asking. :-) I don't know much at all about coding courses...that's why I said, "...am I missing something?" Clearly, I'm pretty ignorant about it. :-D

My friends who are coders (I know 2 from my old hospital days) talk like it will be a major shift when they begin ICD-10. I wasn't speaking from any certain knowledge of which is currently being taught...I only assumed that students must be starting to learn ICD-10 since it's coming some day.

I was just wondering what the later start date might mean for people who are currently in school to learn coding since another MT friend of mine has been thinking about learning coding now...I was going to share the answer with her. I'll just direct her to this forum so she can hopefully learn some helpful advice. She's just toying with the idea at this point.

Thanks for the knowledgeable input.

Arrrgh, didn't mean Greyhound Mom! - Cassie

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I'm clearly ignorant about more than just coding courses! :-D

Sorry about that "subject line." That popped in there somehow from a previous post I had made elsewhere on the forum...weird!

Proposed date has been posted in the Federal Register - sm

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HHS has proposed Oct 1, 2014, in the Federal Register. That opens a 30-day comment period.

You should be able to Google it there. You can submit comments on it, too.

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