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What is a "statutory" employee? - R. Raccoon, (nm)


Posted: Aug 28, 2010

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Well, for beginners, you have to stand REAL still..... - nm

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Gotta admit, that made me laugh. - nm

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I'll do my own taxes, less messing with my check MTSO - does, the better off I am. nm

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LOL! - Rocky R.

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See link - mt2long

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What it means to you as an employee, is that the company usually holds your taxes and SS, but you're still an "IC" of sorts.

Smple definition - ez does it

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A worker who is treated as an employee for social security and Medicare tax purposes and as self-employed for income tax purposes.

they withhold SS/Medicare, not Federal or State taxes. N/M - thats it in 10 words or less.

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Most DO w/h federal - mt2long

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Many services who utilize the statutory employee structure will also withhold federal taxes.

Also, it's not just WITHHOLDING your SS. Your employer pays 50% of your SS tax and you pay 50%.

Only if you are an IC/self-employed are you responsible for the entire amount of social security.

This is one of the reasons many MTSOs still use the IC status- it eliminates that expense for them.

er, uh..doh. That's how they did it when I was an SE. - whatever N/M

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smooch

You are NOT in most cases able to get UNEMPLOYMENT - LB1234

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If you need to get unemployment because your job gets outsourced to voice recognition, happened to me and I was unemployed for 2 months looking for a good EMPLOYEE job, you will not be able to get unemployment. Otherwise, it is better than independent contractor, because at least some taxes are paid out of your check and I Social Security is paid. Ask potential employer what they hold out. Many do not know that you cannot get unemployment if you are SE, though, so if that is important to you, check that out. This PROFESSION ought to be ALL employee, however. This PROFESSION does not meet IC in most cases. I just worked a radiology IC, they wanted you on at EXACTLY a certain time and working and checking for work with a 1-2 hour turn around. And scheduled EXACT days. That, my friends, is not an independent contractor. Also, it was 50 hours a week to do that account. NOT IC.

Verify this - mt2long

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The statutes changed in 2005 and where you did not have to pay FEDERAL unemployment taxes on statutory employees prior to this, you did have to pay them after. This would give you some rights to collect unemployment and I would dispute any ruling otherwise. (Believe me, I spent YEARS in negotiations, arguments, court with the IRS on this particular issue.)

And, just because you're scheduled a schedule that does not automatically imply there is an employee/employer relationship. Many IC positions have designated hours in which they are to be done.

VERIFICATION; Per IRS No Federal Income Taxes and No Unemployment - FYI

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Like a lot of things the MTSOs do, the classification of “Statutory Employee” if often misinterpreted and used incorrectly by some MTSOs.  They try everything they can to pay the least amount of taxes possible.  Does not mean it is correct, as we have all seen with the total misuse of the term “Independent Contractor” by many MTSOs.  


Yes, “Statutory Employees” are free to file for Unemployment, but because of this designation, they must be prepared to fight every step of the way because the MTSO will definitely refuse to go quietly, since many of them are NOT contributing to the Federal unemployment tax (FUTA) because they believe these employees are true “Statutory Employees.”  Once the MTSO gets burned a few times, they stop offering that designation.  You will find very few MTSOs who have “Statutory Employees” today.  


For “Statutory Employees,” companies are only REQUIRED to take out Social Security.  In fact, the IRS suggests they DO NOT take out Federal Income Taxes.  


 Here is the CURRENT definition, according to the IRS.  


http://www.irs.gov/publications/p15a/ar02.html#en_US_publink1000169473


 


Statutory Employees


If workers are independent contractors under the common law rules, such workers may nevertheless be treated as employees by statute, “statutory employees,” for certain employment tax purposes. This would happen if they fall within any one of the following four categories and meet the three conditions described under Social security and Medicare taxes , below.



  1. A driver who distributes beverages (other than milk) or meat, vegetable, fruit, or bakery products; or who picks up and delivers laundry or dry cleaning, if the driver is your agent or is paid on commission.

  2. A full-time life insurance sales agent whose principal business activity is selling life insurance or annuity contracts, or both, primarily for one life insurance company.

  3. An individual who works at home on materials or goods that you supply and that must be returned to you or to a person you name, if you also furnish specifications for the work to be done.

  4. A full-time traveling or city salesperson who works on your behalf and turns in orders to you from wholesalers, retailers, contractors, or operators of hotels, restaurants, or other similar establishments. The goods sold must be merchandise for resale or supplies for use in the buyer's business operation. The work performed for you must be the salesperson's principal business activity. See Salesperson in section 2.


Social security and Medicare taxes.   Withhold social security and Medicare taxes from the wages of statutory employees if all three of the following conditions apply.



  • The service contract states or implies that substantially all the services are to be performed personally by them.

  • They do not have a substantial investment in the equipment and property used to perform the services (other than an investment in transportation facilities).

  • The services are performed on a continuing basis for the same payer.


Federal unemployment (FUTA) tax.   For FUTA tax, the term “employee” means the same as it does for social security and Medicare taxes, except that it does not include statutory employees in categories 2 and 3, earlier. Any individual who is a statutory employee under category 1 or 4, earlier, is also an employee for FUTA tax purposes and subject to FUTA tax.


Income tax.   Do not withhold federal income tax from the wages of statutory employees.


Reporting payments to statutory employees.   Furnish Form W-2 to a statutory employee, and check “Statutory employee” in box 13. Show your payments to the employee as “other compensation” in box 1. Also, show social security wages in box 3, social security tax withheld in box 4, Medicare wages in box 5, and Medicare tax withheld in box 6. The statutory employee can deduct his or her trade or business expenses from the payments shown on Form W-2. He or she reports earnings as a statutory employee on line 1 of Schedule C (Form 1040), Profit or Loss From Business, or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040), Net Profit From Business. A statutory employee's business expenses are deductible on Schedule C (Form 1040) or C-EZ (Form 1040) and are not subject to the reduction by 2% of his or her adjusted gross income that applies to common-law employees.


 

Thanks for all the info! I just added it to my list of - things I dont want to be! R.Raccoon
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Independent contractor
Part-time
Per diem
VR editor
Statutory employee

I want full-time and bennies! (And hourly pay, if I can find it. Production pay is a CROCK.)

Also... - MT

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I live in a state where there is no State Income Tax, and I'm considered Statutory. The company does take out everything else.


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