My whole life went to those companies. I worked 70 hours a week for those two. Eventually I couldn't do it anymore. But minimum wage at both was what I needed to survive. Then, I cut certain things out of my budget, like food, and just went to Nuance because I thought it paid better. Big mistake. Got so stressed I was up all night worrying. Eventually finally got away from both. I worry for everyone who works for those places!