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Payroll company listed as EMPLOYER on W2??? - Sorry about rant


Posted: Jan 25, 2012

Ok, I'm being careful here because I'm not sure what companies names' we can/cannot post so here we go:

I've been working for the same company (let's call it company TYPE A for now) for approximately 6-7 yrs as an IC. When I got my 1099's, the company's name TYPE A was always listed. As of January 2011, I became an employee and started recieving my checks via a payroll company, let's call them PAYROLL A.  

I got my W2 (online) the other day. When I looked at it, it shows PAYROLL A as my employer, with no mention of the company TYPE A anywhere on the form.  I have never received any paperwork stating I was employed by anyone other than TYPE A.

I have also worked for other companies that used this same payroll company, and those W2's always listed the actual company as my employer, not the payroll company.

I contacted HR. In the first email reply, they stated that's the way it is on everyone's W2 and has always been that way. When I questioned it further (I've been audited in the past, so I'm extra careful now), HR tells me PAYROLL A files my taxes using their FEIN number, therefore as the employer of record, the employer is PAYROLL A.

So I did a bit of Googling and found out PAYROLL A has gotten into the business of being a PEO. As per the great and powerful Wikipedia: 

professional employer organization (PEO) is a single source provider of integrated services which enable business owners to cost-effectively outsource the management of human resources, employee benefits, payroll and workers’ compensation and other strategic services, such as recruiting, risk/safety management, and training and development.It does this by hiring a client company’s employees, thus becoming their employer of record for tax purposes and insurance purposes. This practice is known as co-employment.

For some reason, this has rubbed me the wrong way. This seems like legal loophole for the company to pay LESS taxes, cut administrative costs, and have more profit....while asking (more like demanding) ME to take a PAY CUT. And this on top of the fact that TYPE A used to be an American company, but is now 90% run, operated, and owned in the Phillipines. 

I used to be proud of my company. Not so much anymore, especially within the last 2-3 years. 

Actually they get better rates on benefits when outsourcing HR - Rates go by number of employees

[ In Reply To ..]
My last employer did this as well. As the HR company has more employees listed, the insurance rates are cheaper. I didn't get upset at my company for trying to get a better benefit package and/or cut overhead costs for themselves.

I WOULD be upset - MT

[ In Reply To ..]
No, not because of less expensive benefits.

I would be upset that I had not been informed of this little business "arrangement." After all, TYPE A hired you and you have been working for them all this time. If they made a change, you should have been notified.

Employment is SUPPOSED TO BE QUID PRO QUO, not master-slave. Unfortunately, nowadays employers have ALL the power and we wield little to none, ergo it is SLAVERY.

priorities - wow

[ In Reply To ..]
Do you guys really have nothing bigger in your lives to worry about than a name on a W2? If not, I think that's really awesome. Companies are having to cut corners where they can, and no matter what some say, clients ARE paying less, so farming out HR is not a big deal.
Thanks! - MT
[ In Reply To ..]
My life is going swimmingly right now, so thanks for thinking that's awesome!

I can just imagine signing a contract, then having a legal name change and NOT informing the other party that I was now LEGALLY KNOWN BY AND USING ANOTHER NAME! If YOU don't think that notification is necessary, then that's certainly your prerogative.

As for decreased benefits costs, that has already been addressed so your statement is redundant and therefore moot.


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