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CPC exam and Andrews - Samantha
Posted: May 15, 2015
How long does it take in the Andrews program to be able to test for the CPC credential? I would be working at it full time, at least 40 hours per week.
Probably about 5 months, but I'm sure that varies - sm
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If you stay right on schedule with the assignments and tests, you could probably do it in 5 months. You could do it sooner, but that wouldn't be smart, because you need the advanced part of the course for that final polish. The self-confidence part of it doesn't hurt either when you're at the test site with all those people who are under-prepared and terrified, some of them walking out because the test is too hard for them. There's a lot to be said for being very prepared.
Coding for Overly Prepared Persons - LOL!
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There is something to be said for that! I think that has always been Andrews' secret to success.
No joke about the people walking out, either. The first time I saw that, it unnerved me. I thought it meant the exam was impossible. After an hour, I still hadn't found the impossible part. It was hard, but not impossible.
Thanks. Another question... - Samantha
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Does Andrews have any sort of job placement assistance program for coders who successfully complete their course?
Be careful about using that as a way to select schools. - Coder
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I would not use that as a way to select a school. It depends on what you mean by that, though.
It is pretty much a myth that schools place students in jobs. It started as a kind of false advertising on the part of unscrupulous schools. That is why schools that take student loans are required to disclose statistics on the jobs students get. If you look closely at schools that claim to do so, you will see that students may not be placed in a good job or even in a job related to what they studied. Or, you may find out too late that job placement assistance meant a list of employers taken from the phone book or a sample resume.
Some schools claim to have agreements with certain employers, not mentioning that it is no assurance of placement, or that few students are placed, or that it is into a training program that pays little and is no guarantee of permanent employment, or that employment comes with a long period of indentured service during which you may be forced to remain in a relatively low-paying job or pay huge sums to get out of it. (Such as some indeterminate time at $10/hr, plus up to 18 months at $15/hr, or pay $15,000 back to the company for their "training." And they won't tell you that you will need to have that CCA and work for a year before you can even take the CCS.)
They may not not mention that graduates of other schools are also eligible or that those grads will not need to be placed in a training program.
That wasn't what you asked, though. You asked if Andrews offered job placement assistance. The answer is this ... THEIR grads never needed it. Not like that, anyway.
They offer something better. Training that goes beyond what other schools offer, so you don't need training positions to fill the gap, because you can take the CPC after 5 or 6 months and the CCS when you graduate. Without needing the CCA first.
Andrews will work with you to succeed. They will help you with resumes, they will advise, and if necessary, they will round up one of their group of very reputable industry experts to advise, mentor, whatever it takes. Not paid counselors in an office, but actual working directors, consultants, auditors, and supervisors. They rarely have to do that.
That being said, there are companies, even remote ones, that like Andrews students. And which give them real jobs.
To me, that is the sort of "placement assistance" that matters ... their excellent reputation with employers, an education that enables you to qualify for and pass even the CCS, and your ability to get the job and keep it on your own merits.
The best kind - sm
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They offer the best kind of job placement assistance. They teach at the level where you don't need anyone to find you a job or place you on one. You are capable of doing that yourself. They do help with resume preparation and guidance. You won't need more than that. Your credentials will speak volumes for you.
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