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why do the ESLs use "i.e." so much??? - centaura57


Posted: Jan 04, 2012

I work in a 15-physician multi-speciality practice.  I have one particular ESL doctor whose English is decent, but he's always using "i.e." in places that really don't need anything.  A good example would be Patient was given Toprol XL, i.e. 50 mg q.d.  I've gotten to the point I just put Toprol XL 50 mg.....mainly because the next thing out of his mouth will also have an "i.e." in it somewhere.  In a paragraph (or HPI part of the document), I'd be willing to bet there would be 5-6 of those buggers in there, even in the diagnoses!  Really fun part though - he hasn't noticed I work them out of there as much as I can!  lol  And he's a doctor who READS EVERYTHING. 

Where do they pick up this i.e. thing?!?!?

i.e. - anon

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I think it is just an ESL thing. Kind of like how so many of them say "full stop" instead of period. It's annoying, but as you say his English is pretty decent.

the same with hence - countrygirlMT

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hence this and hence that

I have an ESL that says - Snoopy

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i-yuhhhh after every other word. I'm guessing it's her equivalent to our "um". Kind of annoying though!

mine say - anoying

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I have a few who say "full stop" all the time to end a sentence. Drives me nuts. I almost feel like I work at Western Union!

lol - centaura57

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Guess they just don't get it. Or else they really like the words! Thanks, all. Just needed to vent. ;-)

:) Put me in a better mood. - mtlt

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Maybe they are trying to sing "Old MacDonald Had A Farm" and they sing all but that part in their mind?

You guys know that in most of the English-speaking world - Me

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including the UK, NZ and Australia, "full stop" is standard instead of "period", right? If ESLs learned English from a Brit or Aussie, then that's what they'd say naturally. Period just means a time span or menstruation and sounds odd as punctuation to them.

exactly - ...

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just because ESLs stay stuff that is not common to us in the US, it doesn't mean they are foolish.

As far as words and phrases like "hence", "thus", "i.e",native speakers use (and abuse!) these phrases all the time.

"Period. Period. Period." - ESLWoes

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I have one ESL doc who says "period" every time he stops to think or take a breath. If I put in all the periods he actually said, the dictation would read like Tonto...

I have a dude from Long Island who does the same thing - nm

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