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Requirements for PAs - Surprising
Posted: Oct 27, 2013
I posted this information below in response to someone else but wanted to bring it to the top because I, too, wonder why many PAs are so notoriously inaccurate when dictating. Hope nobody's offended by a double post.
I was reviewing PA coursework at a leading university and quote the following:
(My comments are in parentheses)
"A course in medical terminology is recommended (not REQUIRED?) for applicants who are not health professionals or for any applicant not confident of their ability in this area (so they determine for THEMSELVES whether they're competent?). Self-study courses are appropriate. No transcript record/grade for medical terminology is required. All applicants must pass, with a score of 75% or better, a written exam in medical terminology given at the time of the interview."
So...in other words, PAs are only required to be 75% correct? Ahhhh. LOL
ADDENDUM: In case anyone is interested, the cost for this university's 28-month PA program starting in 2013 is $75,000.
and then they are given - our lives to medically
[ In Reply To ..]treat... almost as much as a physician! I would not trust my life, diagnosis, or treatment to a PA. I would not even trust him with a prescription pad! I know some PAs are even allowed to do surgery! The "victims," I mean patients, are not even aware of this!!! ugh. what a system! and we pay thousands of our hard earned dollars on insurance to pay for this! unbelievable!
You people don't know what you're talking about - PA material
[ In Reply To ..]If you were to really investigate a PA program (which I have, and which I qualify for), it is a 2-year upper level program. That means, a lot of pre-med has to be satisfied BEFORE the final 2-year program specifically geared to the PA courses. PA's are almost as qualified as the MDs and on the same level as ARNPs.
PA material - Nick
[ In Reply To ..]I am sure you are highly qualified, as are many PA's. The problem is that many PA's and their employers believe them to be more qualified than they are. (I do a lot of med-mal assistance as a law student.) Just as I have no place attempting to try a case in court (I can do that when I have a J.D. after my name and not until), neither do PA's have any business doing many of the things they do--and frequently unsupervised. It is kind of like chiropractors. I have a great one who treats the sequelae of old football injuries and really helps me a lot. He knows and works within his limitations. However, a chiropractor recently made headlines for openly advertising that he could cure diabetes and AIDS! (He lost his license.) Sorry, but I do not consider myself anywhere near the knowledge/skill/ability level of the practicing attorneys in our firm, and neither do I consider that
PA's are "almost as qualified as MD's." T'aint so, Magee......
Your honor, I object - defense team
[ In Reply To ..]I would like the court to ask the prosecution to clarify what he means by "neither do PA's have any business doing many of the things they do--and frequently unsupervised."
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA - TOOFUNNY
[ In Reply To ..]nm
well if you can pass the test then why waste time on a course - not sure why this is such an issue for you
[ In Reply To ..]they have to take so many biology and anatomy classes that taking a medical terminology course would be moot and would really only benefit the college requiring it. Colleges rip you off enough as it is.
I'm finishing my prerequisites for nursing. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]After seeing microbiology, anatomy and physiology firsthand, medical terminology seems like an amusing little detour that some colleges still tack on for some reason (mine doesn't). Trust me, the above 3 classes included almost every word I have ever heard in 20 years of medical transcription. And not just the "spelling bee" aspect of every single medical word you know. But what it is, where it is, what it articulates with, every facet and projection of every bone, every muscle, every nerve, (no, seriously, it feels like every freaking one of them). I walked away from those classes knowing about 40x more medical terminology than I ever learned doing transcription. Spelling is easy and so is transcription but learning how to be a PA or a nurse is not. You don't even need to graduate from high school to be an MT. On test day in Anatomy or Microbiology, there are 20 microscopes set up with slides and YOU have to identify what that is (could be 100 different things). You have to identify muscles on cadavers and models. Its 200 questions of fill-in the blanks kinda hard. Not T/F or multiple choice. 160 college units here and Anatomy is the hardest class I have ever taken by a mile and every nurse I know will say the same thing.
You have to have a Bachelor's Degree First - nn
[ In Reply To ..]You have to have a Bachelor's Degree before going for your PA -- you can't just go to school to become a PA
What I don't get - MT
[ In Reply To ..]I don't understand the inflated egos MTs have. In the great scheme of things, all we do is make a record. We don't heal people, we don't diagnose. Yeah, we know the words, but that's our JOB, to know the words, just like it's their job to make people better. If they can't spell or have trouble with pronunciation, so what? I'd rather they focus on the practical skills they really need to do their job, like assessments, and surgery.
That is like expecting Bill Gates to type 120 wpm - because he uses a keyboard
[ In Reply To ..]Medical terminology is something you had to learn because you didn't know anything else about medicine, and you needed some way to do your job.
Spelling, grammar, and punctuation is not their job.
big deal - it is a med term course
[ In Reply To ..]In nursing school, we never had to take a med term course. It's an entry level "get a clue" course. That's just dumb.
As to the lawyer-not-a-lawyer, a certified PA can do A LOT of stuff and a chiropractor losing his license cause he says he can cure diabetes is ludicrous. Nutritionists all over the country make that claim.
This thread, save the one comment that sounds like she actually knows what she's talking about is bunk
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