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EVERY MT Should be Making $70K Per Year - Realist

Posted: Nov 22, 2011

That's right! If you are working FT as an MT and are NOT making at least $70,000 per year, you are either:

* Lazy/Not ambiious or determined enough. Your skill set is low and you haven't beefed it up with extra classes, etc. because you are INDOLENT.

* Stupid/Sloppy: Your quality sucks, your work is rife with errors, you are not a "perfectionist."

* You are a loser with low self-esteem, otherwise you would be commanding and getting 0.12 per line for your perfect work!

*OR* some combination of the above.

A handful of "experts" on this board -- who KNOW BETTER than the credentialed industry leaders who read and write the literature about industry trends AND the statisticians compiling income data -- have said it, so it MUST be true.

You see, in 2011 there is NO EXCUSE for NOT making $70,000 per year as an MT in America. Outsourcing has NOT dropped our wages, and offshoring has NOT dried up the pool of available positions. Those are just fallacies.

There are PLENTY of great-paying MT jobs still in this country, and it's your own fault for not having one. You all just need to get off your lazy butts and go get them.

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What an offense post, even if it is sarcasm. - What is your point?

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There are many, if not most, MTs who are not making $70,000 per year. I am one of them. I make a good living at about $45,000, give or take a couple thousand. I consider myself a very good MT. I enjoy my job, and I like my company. Where does this list of adjectives come from; lazy, not ambitious, stupid, sloppy, loser, and low self esteem?

Are you just trying to get a rise out of people? Poor taste to do so.

I should have said offensive post. - Indeed. NM

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Defensive much? - Realist

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It's not NEARLY as offensive as the tacit insults levied against every MT on this board the other day. Where was your "outrage" about that? Or was that YOUR post?

I'm sure upper management has spouted out a few of those accusations - to make themselves feel better, sm

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about what they are doing to the MT business right now. It's always the MTs fault, never the MTSO.

I've never heard management or anyone else 'spout' those accusations - sm

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There are some sleazy MTSOs and some that are just as good as any of us, and everything inbetween. That's a huge leap to think that anyone ever thought that, much less said it. Someone is just having a bad day and wants to share it I guess.

Your not hearing it doesn't mean much unless you've worked for - everyone

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REALIST - FYI

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No I am not being "defensive" at all. Your post did not go over my head at all. My statement was that your post was rather offensive, even in sarcasm and exaggeration. I read these posts very often, and I have not seen the list of insults you listed (admittedly your own exaggeration of course, who knows why). I do not feel the need to come to the defense of all MTs who may have been insulted in a post on this board, and no, it was not my post. I just stated yours was in poor taste just to get a rise out of people. I certainly am not "outraged," as you put it, which is just another one of your exaggerations.

Really, you must be bored out of your mind.

Stupid MTs - sage

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Oddly, I find this post and each argument a waste of time. I'm inclined to persuade you all into not feeding any trolls... & just keep 'on typin'! lol

Only offended if that post makes my butt look big - 2ManyEggs1Basket

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I'd only be offended if I could prove her post informed the world that I have a big butt (a LAZY big butt during my few non-working hours)

;)

I haven't seen anyone say that on this board - MT

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Wow, you are exaggerating - no one has said that. I have seen some people post recently that they can make $45,000+, but OF COURSE it all depends on the company, platform, pay, accounts, incentives, personal typing speed and use of shortcuts, etc. The point I took away in recent discussions was if you are miserable and making minimum wage at one of the national MTSOs, instead of posting sarcastic comments or calling people who make more than you unrealistic, start looking for smaller companies, on-site hospitals, ANYWHERE etc. because it is possible.

Exaggeration is a HALLMARK of sarcasm. - Realist

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Do you know what sarcasm is? Exaggeration is one of its hallmarks, so if you knew what sarcasm was you would have expected it to be present.

Be honest now: You haven't read every post on this entire board, have you? Yet you proclaim to ("no one has said that.")

There were some posts the other day that you obviously missed.

Your presumption continues with a projection onto me and my employment situation, when I have stated nothing about it. Do you proclaim to be prescient too?

I have read every post in at least the last 2 months - MT

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No need for condescending lessons either, I was an English major. Yes, I have read every post at least within the last 2 months. Also, I made $58,000 last year (I averaged 300 lph for straight and 550 for VR on a good platform - ExText).

EVERY post? LOL - PassingThru

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Yes, I am sure that you have CLICKED ON AND READ EVERY SINGLE POST on this forum for a solid 2 months! AND you remember the content of EACH and EVERY POST. AND you still have time to earn $58,0000.

That's a good one!

Thanks for the laugh -- my sides are splitting!

Defensive much? - anon

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BTW, prescience is foreknowledge or "Knowledge of events before they happen" to quote the online OED. In your usage you would therefore mean that the poster had knowledge regarding your future employment status, not your current employment status which is obviously what you intended to mean. Thus, the word you want is omniscient.

Grammar/Spelling Police ALERT. - Geesh

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All MTs take notice: You are expected to spell perfectly and use perfect grammar at all times on this forum! Each and every post is incredibly important, will significantly impact world history, so is basically another Gettysburg Address. Any errors in your posts will not be tolerated.

You are completely missing the point - anon

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If you had read and understood the complete thread, you would realize I was not criticizing the grammar but the substance and tone of the post.

No, you criticized misuse of a term, not the tone. - Geesh

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No, I completely GOT it. You can't spin this to make it something it wasn't because the posts serve as evidence and they are still on the board.

Go back and reread your own post -- perhaps it will refresh your memory. You corrected the OP's misuse of a term ("prescient" instead of "omniscient"). I merely stated "grammar/spelling" -- which admittedly (because I have honor and class) was not the correct term -- merely for the sake of brevity.

Correcting a poster's grammar, spelling, punctuation, syntax, verb and subject agreement, tense agreement, etc. ALL fall under the SAME CATEGORY. We are not supposed to be POLICING other people's posts on here in that manner, and that is EXACTLY what you did.

So you can stop SPINNING it now because EVERYONE on here can READ YOUR POST.

I understand your sarcasm. My last supervisor thought I should work - 70 hours a week to make that happen

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Thanks! Sarcasm was necessary. - Realist

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Many posters took umbrage at what was posted the other day, yet their points were shouted down.

I felt that sarcasm was the perfect avenue to make the point. I'm glad that you are intelligent enough to appreciate it. Thank you for posting. :)

Hey, realist. I get it as well. I HAVE read those - sort of posts here NM

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It is about realism - MT

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Every single thing you say, Realist, is true, even if sarcastic. I am talking about what MTSOs are telling MTs. Of course we know our living wage has gone down drastically. There is no loyalty from MTSOs toward their MTs. More MTs need to wake up and smell the coffee. MTSOs are not our friends.

Most MTs I know work 30 hours/week for FT work - nm

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70K per year - littleone

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Do you happen to work for a hospital in Columbus, Ohio???

good grief, it's not a serious post. I have a friend who was making - in the 70s and 80s

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but that was a few years ago and she had to work 7 days a week. She worked for a hospital and the overtime is what helped to get her that income. After a year of so of that, they blocked overtime unless approved, so her pay went down as she was not approved for overtime as much as she had to make the 70s and 80s that she did in the past. Of course, if some of these doctors would just stop dictating like we can all read their minds, then we could all make a lot more money then we do.

good grief - little one

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It may be a serious post. I know someone who makes that much money, however their QA scores are in the toilet about 99% of the time because they don't care about quality.

The word SARCASM is written in the note, - seriously, nm

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It's more exaggeration than sarcasm if you look up the definitions - sarcasm and exaggeration

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It included lots of sarcasm, but also gross exaggeration. I didn't really see the point in it because it wasn't accurate. In order to be sarcastic, it would have to be sarcastic against something or about something, but the facts were wrong. It didn't make sense.

Who cares!? Geesh! - Sandy

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If anything is contradictory, it is this: "It included lots of sarcasm, but also gross exaggeration. I didn't really see the point in it because it wasn't accurate. In order to be sarcastic, it would have to be sarcastic against something or about something,"

First you say it had lots of sarcasm, then you say it didn't because it didn't meet the criteria.

Not that that matters! That is so minor it's ridiculous.

This board is so full of reactors it's not even funny! Take a look at it on any given day, and 90% of the posts on here are people reacting: righteous indignation, attacking a poster who rained on her parade, etc.

That is dysfunctional behavior by any measure.

In other words, exactly what you are doing. - anon

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If no one reacts to other posters, there would be no forum.

High drama. - Sandy

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I should have stated "overreacting."

Most of the posters on here are too emotive; that's why there are so many cat fights on here.

You seem to have confused a response with a reaction. All responses are not reactions. But all reactions are responses.

Holy crap people... - Cheesey

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This post just flew right over so many heads....

I agree, Cheesy, good grief is right !! - Oh my

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holy crap people - little one

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I guess so!!

Cheesey - - LOL

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Of course it flew over a lot of heads...IMHO, many of the MTs who frequent this board definitely lack basic comprehension skills and misconstrue/twist/misintrepret half of what they read or don't bother to read posts in their entirety. That's how all these ridiculous catfights break out. I don't necessarily agree with the OP but at least I understood what she was saying, LOL!

Bravo, Realist, Bravo! Sm - Old Woman

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I am on this board every day and have been for, oh, the last 10 years give or take, and I see these same sentiments expressed multiple times per day, multiple days per week and so on.

(sarcasm) "I make $70K by working for a small, privately owned, little known MTSO that appreciates my talent and compensates me accordingly, but, heck NO, I am not telling you who it is because you will flood the HR department with resumes, most of which would be unacceptable anywhere, and just blow their little minds to the point the company would have to shut down and then I would lose my job, and I'm not going to let that happen. Besides, they are not hiring right now, and even if they were, you probably are not talented enough or dedicated enough or smart enough or quality-oriented enough to work for them. These kinds of companies are out there, you just have to keep looking until you find them, not unlike the elusive goose that laid the golden egg." (/sarcasm)

I quite enjoyed your satire. The point I would like to make is that this is a forum for a group of people who have a common occupation. I don't know who you are, and you don't know who I am, but if you follow my posts well enough you know where I work. You might even be my boss, for all I know. I know that bosses have caught employees "in the act" on this board before as I have seen it happen.

Maybe there are MTs making $70K a year, or maybe they are just blowing smoke up your skirt. Maybe there are M-F, 8-5 schedules out there, or maybe not. Maybe the industry is going to he!! in a handbasket, or maybe it will make an amazing turnaround and come back stronger than ever. And maybe, just maybe, there are some good companies left. The fly in the ointment, so to say, is that, even though we have the common bond of doing the same work, we do all work for different companies that have different pay scales and different platforms (some quite productive and some not so much) and different quality guidelines and so on and so forth.

I know the economy stinks these days, but for cryin' out loud, if one is so very unhappy with one's current situation, please, for sanity's sake, find some other job! I did a few years ago, and I would still be there if it weren't for health issues and a family situation that prevents me from working in a conventional office setting. Life is too short to be miserable. Either grow where you are planted or find another garden.

To quote the great Forrest Gump, "That's all I've got to say about that."

Well done! (nm) - wrkn4pnuts

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Old Woman - Clever

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I just wanted to say, I love the "Either grow where you are planted or find another garden" comment!! Kudos! :o)

making a living---NOT! - very unhappy camper

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Realist wrote (in part): You see, in 2011 there is NO EXCUSE for NOT making $70,000 per year as an MT in America. Outsourcing has NOT dropped our wages, and offshoring has NOT dried up the pool of available positions. Those are just fallacies.

Realist, you forgot to mention VR and EMR which is also causing medical transcription to go the way of the dinosaurs.

Riding the train until it ends, $58,000+ a year here - realchick

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Sorry you are having problems with your pay rate. I am riding the gravy train until it ends.

and how accurate are you? I don't believe it - lka

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Would you care to share where you work with me who has been doing this for 25 plus years and barely making $8 an hour. How is that possible? I works my buns off and all I get are the worst of the worst ESl. It is just plain sickening. Please share so I can make some money too!

Find a small hospital system that still pays well - realchick

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Been working for a small hospital group for years. They have roughly 25 of us that work for them. They pay $4.50 a page, even if there is only one line on the page. LIke I said, I am riding the gravy train until it ends.

Now someone will tell you - sm

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Paraphrasing what you will hear next:

You just think you're happy and making $58,000/year. You're too ignorant to know that you're unhappy and, by the way, you're next. You won't be happy long.

We've seen those messages so many times that I have them memorized. My answer is that some MTs have been weeded out and/or lost their jobs. Others are doing well. Some have lost their jobs because they aren't very good at their work, don't care about their work, don't treat it like a job, don't bother to show up for work when they are scheduled, think of it as a little extra job they do for spending money, or don't intend to do the work the way management wants it done.

Meanwhile, some are still doing well.

Entire departments have gone POOF. - Justme

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The dismantling of in-house MT departments has cost MANY MTs their jobs. When an entire department goes "poof," of course there will be many unhappy campers coming on here to gripe.

The problem is that those people CLAIMING to be making the big bucks paint with one broad brushstroke, accusing all other MTs who don't make as much of what the OP underscored. That is just wrong.

CLAIMING (LOL) I love how if you are doing well - Shannon

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Making 12 cpl and 6 cpl for VR, so for now still able to do well. I average $240 a day.

I think it works like this - See message

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An OP writes:
I can't make any money doing MT. These companies are horrible. Nobody can even make minimum wages. MT is doomed.

Another person will reply:
Actually, I'm doing very well, so I don't think it's doomed at all.

Someone else will reply:
That has to be a lie. We are all going down the tubes.

Another person will reply:
It's possible that you are working for the wrong company.

OP will write:
Sure, give me a break! Tell me the names of any company where you can make better than minimum wages.

Someone else will reply that it isn't smart to give out the names of your employer. They don't want to drown in applicants from unqualified people, which is what happens when their name is mentioned on forums.

Someone else will say that anyone who claims to be doing well is lying. If anyone is making any money at all, just wait, their time is coming. They will be here wailing and whining with the rest of the people very soon.

It goes downhill from there.

That's the short version of what happens when (1) someone says they are failing to do well and (2) someone else says they are not failing to do well.

Yes. All of those are subjective, emotional responses. - Sandy

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I think you nailed the average exchange on this forum -- full of high drama, sweeping generalizations, projection, and overreactions.

What some fail to realize is that any subjective, anecdotal account doesn't matter. You need to look at statistics and income data for a clear, objective look at the big picture.

The big picture is as clear as the nose on your face: MT is doing the death rattle. Some are in the advanced stages of it, needing life support. Others are not so far along and still managing to eek out a living.

Fewer still are still doing very well. Good for them. But it won't last forever. And to suggest that anyone who isn't as fortunate as they are has something wrong with them or is doing something wrong is just -- well, wrong.

There you go, proving the previous poster correct - We get to choose who we learn from

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Good grief! It's so predictable. If anyone says they are doing well, someone has to say they are in the depths of a death rattle but don't know it.

The most reasonable scenario is that many are going to lose their jobs or decide to do something else. Those who are doing very well are going to continue doing well, even as there are changes in how we do what we do, which always happens. It's only doom and gloom/death rattles for some, not all.

To me, that means that just because I'm doing well, I shouldn't expect that everyone else is. It doesn't mean they are ignorant or unmotivated. They may just be better suited for some other kind of work.

It also means to me that someone who is failing to do well shouldn't read too much into that. In any kind of career you want to name, some do well and some don't. Most people who are having trouble don't enjoy spreading the misery, but a few do, because they are miserable people and that's what they do in life, spread misery. Some of us refuse to accept it from them. Let them go spread their message of impending failure elsewhere. Life is too short to spend listening to those who love failure. It's much more rewarding to be around people who are successful. I'm always learning from successful people. I never learn anything from those who are failing. I choose to learn from the successful among us.

I've never heard anyone say that here or anywhere else - sm

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I doubt that many MTs make that much, although I know $60,000 isn't impossible.

What you have heard people here and elsewhere say is that MT isn't for everyone. If you try it and find that you can't make the amount you need for your own purposes and you can do better elsewhere, why aren't you moving on to that more lucrative career, whatever it is. In fact, if you aren't making the amount you need for your own purposes, why are you wasting time here? Keep working on finding the job that is exactly right for you. Don't stop to gripe and complain. That takes you away from what you really need to be doing, finding a job you like, one you are good at.

I don't really think it's always a matter of being lazy. I think it's more likely that people have different priorities or skills, and doing quality MT isn't one of them. It was never intended to be for everyone.

Um, you do realize that the OP was - SARCASM

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don't you? It said right there in the body of the post -- sarcasm.

Um, yes I do realize it was sarcasm, but directing - lka

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to the person who said she was making $58,000 a year. Did you see that I "replied" to her post... not the OP?

Like I said though, how is it even possible to make that much unless you are getting about 15 cpl and have a small amount of ESL and other difficult dictators. I can transcribe or edit anybody if they speak clearly and enunciate the words!!

I did that with 8 cents (9 with weekend dif) - CB

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I also made about the same last year, though I disagree with that poster that this is a "gravy train". I worked very hard for that. I was paid 8 cents straight, 6 cents VR (9 and 7 on weekends). It was one account with doctors I had been typing for years, and I averaged 300+ lph straight, 500 for VR.

Look at your post. - You replied to the OP

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In any event, I made over 28k last year working part-time (3-4 hours 4 days a week) and will likely make over 32k this year with the same schedule. People do it. I'm an actual person, and I can do it. And, I get 8 cents per 65-character line. It certainly can be done.

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I work for a company that I make NO money. YES, I am seeking other employment, I'm not just sitting there whining about it, but rather just keeping some income while I look for more income. I have barely had work this week and even when I do have work, the VR system is so bad that I really don't clear minimum wage. So, today, apparently they are behind and I'm getting emails every hour or so that say "You ladies need to jump in and help, make this money while you can" I me ...

Dec 16, 2013

She says things like "He currently has a G-tube of which medications will be administered." Or "...secondary to UTI, Foley catheter associated, of which this has now been removed. " Or "this is a chronic problem of which he had a G-tube inserted in October" She's making me nuts tonight. These examples are all from one report, too. I guess if that's the worst thing I have to deal with tonight, tonight is still pretty good, but I just wan ...