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Demos - FBL

Posted: Aug 03, 2012

I know it varies by platform, client and dictator, but verifying and setting up demographic info seems to take a large chunk of my production time. If we get it wrong, it is a major error, and rightfully so.

I am just wondering if anyone has ever questioned or researched the legality of potentially being fired (and, therefore, not eligible for unemployment in most states) for something we are not paid for?

Actually, It's a Critical Error - On A lot of the Issues

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I think this is one reason so many people are quitting, or at least it makes it easier for us to quit when it comes time to actually quit.

It really is difficult, the threats for making errors, or not catching erros, and you don't even get paid for it.

Even if there is a legality behind it, there are way too many other good reasons to quit for it to be worth our while to fight. For me, anyway. We've talked, had our voice ignored, etc., which is why I personally do not voice anything anymore. It's just a way for them to let us to THINK we're being heard.

Once I'm out, and have a real job again, I still plan - to sue for back pay for all those things.

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And yes, I DO believe the fight is "worth it".

I don't know if this would work - as a way to get unemployment,

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because one knows, presumably, that the whole report is included in the line rate. I guess the only solution is to just not work at such low line rates.

I'm pretty sure it's illegal for them to require us to do - things in the course of our job, and - sm

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then not pay us for doing them. Such as VBC platforms that don't pay for spaces. Or not paying for standby time when there are no jobs available. I think you may be right about the demographics, too. It's bad enough that they are slower than molasses, but to not pay us for them may be something your state's Labor Board (or a labor law attorney) would be interested in hearing about.

Once and for all - YOU ARE PAID FOR DOING THEM!! - Line rate takes all this into account.

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God, I can't understand how some of us think that we aren't paid for everything necessary to complete the job properly.

The MTSO knows that you do demographics. They know that you look up terms. They know that you sometimes have to sit while the dictator shuffles papers or eats his lunch.

And all they have to argue is that the line rate takes all of this into account.

PLEASE, FOLKS, LET'S GET OFF THIS LOSER ARGUMENT. THE DOG SIMPLY WON'T HUNT.

PS - I'm not saying you're paid ADEQUATELY. - sm

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Whether the line rate is "adequate" in your opinion is a totally different argument (and it, too, is a loser but a different loser, because you're always free NOT to work for inadequate pay if you don't like it, and that's all there is to that.)

The ONLY thing that can improve this situation is an organized work action, because THAT is the only tool that workers have to pressure employers to pay them adequately - or to make most other improvements in their working situation.

Of course, an organized work action will NEVER HAPPEN in this field because everyone is too frightened, because we're scattered all over, because we're isolated, etc...

...and don't think the MTSO's don't like it that way.

NO, you are not paid for demos - wheres_my_job

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Amphion states over and over again that you are NOT PAID FOR DEMOS. This is probably true of many companies.

You're not paying attention. You're not paid for demo KEYSTROKES. - Should not be this difficult to understand..

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You're not paid for looking up terms.
You're not paid for the time it takes to log on.
You're not paid for reading email from your supervisor.
You're not paid for clocking in and out.

THE LINE RATE SUBSUMES ALL OF THIS, INCLUDING DEMOGRAPHICS!!

Correct, of course, but - understanding requires acceptance of truth. :) NM

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The line rate does not "subsume" all. - wheres_my_job

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MTs are not being compensated in any way for demos at Amphion. They are told they are not compensated, and they are not. All the other things you mention are irrelevant to the original post, which related to demos.

When someone has to qualify their original argument, by buttressing it with irrelevancies, that generally means they have lost the argument. Something to think about.

demos - just saying

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We aren't getting paid for demos and looking names and addresses up. We don't get paid when we have to look up which Dr. Smith out of who knows how many Dr. Smiths is the correct Dr. Smith. We aren't getting paid while a doctor chews his lunch or can't clear his sinuses or zones out while chewing gum or shuffles paper or can't work the computer or whatever.

I was told when I was hired, "If your fingers aren't moving on the keyboard, you aren't making money." Enough said.

Oh, for heaven's sakes. If it weren't for this stuff you'd - probably be paid 2 cents a line.Get it? NM

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Verifying demographics is an important part of our job. - Incidental demo entry also. Data entry is not. SM

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Some accounts shift data entry from hospital staff to transcriptionists--for the same line rate. Like pornography, we know it when we see it, that is, when it exceeds the customary amount that we are paid for in our line rates, but how to prove where that line is?

It might be material for a class action--if you can get others to join and someone to take it.

(Sigh) They will argue that you ARE paid for demographics! - The line rate subsumes everything needed to comple

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I wish we could all get this straight. Just because you're paid by the line does NOT prevent the MTSO from arguing that the line rate takes into account EVERYTHING you do to complete a job - whether demographics, looking up terminology, or even waiting 5 minutes while the dictator shares a joke with his nurse.

All they have to do is to say, "Well, your honor, if we only paid for actual typing, the line rate would be (something less than we pay). We pay the line rate that we do in order to cover this other work activity."

well, I used to be paid the demo page from my - company and now not

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and my line rate has not changed, unless you consider the decrease in pay to do ASR. I also used to be paid to do the cc's, every single letter I typed was paid, but not now. I used to be paid for the headings (physical exam, lab data, etc.) as well, but not anymore. So, if all this was factored in, wouldn't I have gotten a pay increase?

Wrong, Amphion tells you repeatedly - wheres_my_job

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I'm sure many companies do this. They just bald-faced tell you "we're not paying."

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