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Student with a sequencing question - kevmar3


Posted: Jun 17, 2013

I am a coding student and have a couple questions.  If a patient is admitted for aspiration pneumonia, has difficulty swallowing due to a previous stroke and has a stage 2 decuibuts ulcer on the buttock why is the sequencying in this order

507.0, 438.82, 707.05, 707.22

I get the principal diagnosis, but do not understand why the dysphagia is sequenced before the ulcer.

My next one, admitted for E. coli UTI, on day 2 had exacerbatin of COPD, patient is on current therapy for hypertension and ASHD of the native vessels.  The order of the codes is as follows

599.0, 041.49, 491.21, 414.01, 401.9

I put 401.9 - hypertension then 414.01 ASHD native vessels so I had the last two in the wrong order.  I do not understand the sequencing of the last two codes. 

Any help would really be appreciated. Thank you.

It shouldn't be marked wrong - Are you saying

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that it came up as wrong? If the secondary diagnoses are sequenced in a different order than you had, I don't think it's wrong.

Were you marked wrong? Or did it just not match the book? - sm

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Was this marked wrong?

A lot of times students will assume that the textbook order is the only way. In the case of answers like this, other orders might be fine.

Sequencing - kevmar3

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Yes I was marked wrong and I have not been given the reason the codes are sequenced that way. Hoping to get an answer soon. Thanks

Suggestion - sm

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My suggestion is that you sit down with the inpatient coding guidelines and read through the sequencing rules to see if anything applies.

That is the best way to learn the rules, in any event. They are easier if you have something to look for. Applying them is very helpful.

I wonder if this was a computer-graded test. I have heard problems like this from students of one online school in particular.

Once

Ask your instructor, because..... - Graduatedstudent

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I ran across some things when I was going to school, which completely confused me because they were marked wrong and the reason they were was because it was error in the answer book the instructor had. All the instructors do is look at what you submit and match it against what they have in their book. Always, always have your instructor check. Hope this helps

Agree - sm

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When I took college coding classes, not one instructor was a coder. If the online test said your answer was wrong, they were unable to explain or to do anything about it. They admitted they didn't know, were very open about never having coded, and just thought that was fine.


Sequencing - kevmar3

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You guys are great thanks for taking the time to help me out. I am getting the feeling that none of our instructors are coders just like the prior response said.
Just out of curiosity - seeker
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What school are you attending? I'm still researching, trying to come to a decision on where to go...

Thankfully our instructors code, so that helped immensely. - Graduatedstudent

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When I took my course and I found errors or was marked wrong, my instructor was great, because she knew how to code. But, it was the answer book she had. So she would have to look at the problem and then we would discuss it, and most of the time I was the correct one, and the book was not, but that sure does make for a really confused student! :) I do wish you the very best with your studies.


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