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Apprentice designation and CPC certification - close the door to opportunity!


Posted: Mar 03, 2013

I applied thru Indeed to a recruiter for a Navy hospital coding job and received 13 pages to fill out, which I did. The 8-pg coding assessment test was completed and all were faxed back. The response I got was, can't hire an apprentice. I said I was an apprentice in the application, I said I was an apprentice in my resume submission and took a lot of time to take their coding assessment test, only to have the application tossed back because I was an apprentice, they said nothing about how I did on the coding assessment. I was very upset about having spent a lot of time completing everything they asked for, and faxing back 13 pages, only to discover they apparently didn't even look at my assessment, because when I followed up, their response was "would you be interested in taking our coding assessment so that we can assess your skill level at this time?"

Then I applied for a health unit coordinator position at a hospital, night shift, got an interview a month after applying and now two months later have not heard anything back and have followed up four times with phone calls with no response. The job is still listed and I was told there were 4 other applicants besides myself, but not one of us is competent enough to be hired as a HUC? 

And then a part-time HIM job was advertised, but they are going to EHR/EMR in May, so why would I apply for that job, only to be laid off??? 

It seems that coders who are saying "keep at it" don't understand it is impossible to find a job today without experience! The more time that goes by between my certification and job applications must be a red flag, but I know for sure the apprentice designation has hurt my chances of employment and I have been a transcriptionist for decades!!!!  What is taught in coding courses and what is coded in the real world are two different things? I completed AAPC's course, have paid thousands of dollars for the course, the books, the credentialing exam. Isn't being certified a "baseline" assessment of competency?

I dress well for interviews, I answer all their questions, including what are my strengths and weaknesses, why should we hire you, what did you do at your last job that made an impact on patient care, and kept my composure the entire time, with a smile on my face.  I am not a confrontational person, and I had worked at one of the places hiring, with excellent annual reviews.  What gives? 

And don't even suggest volunteering, who can do that these days?

I know the feeling - me2

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I'm also out there looking for a coding job. Applied to the only entry-level coding job in my town in the past 6 months. I applied a week after the job was posted and after a month, I got an email that the position was closed. Closed as in closed or closed as in filled? No matter. I had every qualification they asked for, but not even an interview. It's so disheartening. All that time, all that work to get certified and what now? I have to pay the bills, so going back to MT full time. I also worry about time passing from my certs and how I haven't actually coded in a while now. I guess I will buy a new coding review book to keep up my skills.

Umm, what about EHR means HIMS jobs will get laid off? - We have one and I still have a job . . .

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I think you are mistaken that the HIM job will go away when they get their EHR. Not sure what you are thinking the EHR is or what it will do, but HIM isn't going anywhere.

HIM just switches to maintaining their records in the EHR. The jobs just change a bit, but they're still there.

We have been fully electronic for years and believe me when I tell you that we have loads of HIM employees. We have many of the same jobs as before, as well as new ones.

If you can still apply for that job, I think you need to do so.

Keep an open mind - Anonymous

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Anyone can volunteer; I work 40 hours a week and volunteer, it looks good on a resume if it's related to the job you are pursuing. You could also look into a coding internship. hopefully you haven't quit your other job. As for the rest of your post, I was in the same boat and went on at least 10 interviews before I was hired. I'm not coding, but do work in HIM, I even do some transcription related things, a foot in the door is a foot in the door. I can't say why you didn't get hired; everyone out there dresses well and answers the questions. I thought I had read somewhere that there was a way to have the "apprentice" status removed from the CPC-A, but I do know people who have been hired with that designation. In the meanwhile play it down instead of documenting it on your application and resume. Unfortunately, 2-3 years of experience is the standard these days for coding jobs, but all employers prefer experienced employees. The hospital that has the HUC opening is obviously taking a long time to make up their mind, those things happen. To me, that sounds like it involves some clinical skills, perhaps you have those. I hate to say it, but you do need to "keep at it." I stopped focusing on coding so much and started considering all the other things I was able to do. I did MT for 35 years and I hate to say it, but I think that too long in one field was a hindrance rather than a help. To answer your other question, what is taught in the coding classes is different than real world coding. If you apply for the HIM job, EHR/EMR would probably open up some other opportunities for you; never go in assuming that you are going to be laid off and at this stage don't pass up any opportunity.


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