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Graves, Graves', or Graves's disease ?? - traci
Posted: Apr 12, 2011
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I've been taught Graves disease - nm
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I also was taught Graves disease - RLee - n/m
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It's Graves', BUT - sm
[ In Reply To ..]If your account follows the BOS 3rd edition, if a noun (such as disease) follows the word, you would drop the apostrophe, so it would be Graves disease. According to the BOS, if it stands alone, you would include the apostrophe and it would be Graves'.
I've always used Graves'. - n/m
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Graves, no apostrophe - named after Robert Graves - s/m
[ In Reply To ..]When a disease is named after a person, there is no apostrophe.
Again, it depends on what standard your company - uses sm
[ In Reply To ..]The BOS 3 gives this rule for eponyms (which is something that is named after a person or place): If it is followed by a noun (such as disease), you drop the apostrophe. If it stands alone, you include the apostrophe, that is, if it is dictated with the "s" at the end.
Again, this is according to the BOS, 3rd edition. If your company does not follow this, then this info is invalid, but telling someone "I've always done it this way.." is completely irrelevant if you don't know what standard her company uses.
Graves disease - oldone
[ In Reply To ..]It's like Alzheimer disease or Parkinson disease...leave off the possessive apostrophe.
Debating style is a waste of time. - sweetgirlsmom
[ In Reply To ..]There are many different ways to type something; dates, numbers, periods, abbreviations, hyphens, apostrophes, symbols.
For 100 years we have used the apostrophe with proper nouns; Graves', Graves' disease. Some MTs feel that is correct. Now we have a Book of Style; Graves disease, Graves'. Some MTs feel that is correct.
The NIH website uses Parkinson's disease on their PD page. The American Parkinson Disease Association does not use an apostrophe in their name, but they do on their website.
My two reference books use an apostrophe. My other two reference books don't. My account specifics follow the BOS on some things and do not follow it on others.
Debating style is like arguing about the proper length of a woman's hair? Our opinions don't matter. The only way to resolve this is to find the person in charge and let them decide.
Doctors are in charge of their dictation. Hospitals have some requirements they must meet. Together they decide what they want in their reports. They inform the QA and the QA informs the MTs. They make the rules and they pay us to type it their way.
Somehow MTs got the impression that we are in charge, that we can decide what goes in a report, that we have the right to tell the doctor what words he cannot use. That is wrong. We need to type what is dictated and type what is instructed. We all have our opinions on style, but they don't matter.
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Funny you say that when... - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Just last week you were telling someone to type "1 teens" as "1 teens" because your QA had told you to do so recently, when typically this should be typed as 110s.
Yes, style is subjective as determined by the clients, but if you have no other reference to refer to other than one person saying so, without any reference to back them up, it is irrelevant, especially for other folks working at a different company.
My company follows the BOS, except in cases where the account specifics contradict it.
I do realize there are companies/clients that do not follow this, so in order to answer the OP's question, we need to know the standard that her company follows.
Why is this so hard?
We need to type what the doctor dictates. - sweetgirlsmom
[ In Reply To ..]Last week an MT asked about 1 teens. I said that is correct because I had it recently. I had never heard it before so I left it blank for QA. She told me to type 1 teens when the doctor dictates 1 teens. She told me to type 110's when the doctor dictates 110's. My hospital expects MT's to type the doctor's actual words, and not our version of the doctor's words. I rely on the QA because they have been instructed by the hospital to tell the MTs what to type. Hospitals have the right to choose their style.
Doctors treat hundreds of patients a week. They cannot remember every detail on every patient. When their words are typed accurately, they have a precise record of the patient's condition. These reports are used by other doctors (consultants, surgeons, anesthesiologists) and therapists (occupational, physical, respiratory, speech) to help decide on proper treatment. If an MT has changed the doctor's words, there is no precise record. Treatment decisions can be affected by the use of different words. The patient can fail to get the proper treatment and/or be harmed by the wrong treatment when an MT refuses to type what the doctor dictates.
If an MT has no reference to refer to, they are correct in typing 1 teens for 1 teens and typing 110's for 110's. If an MT is instructed by their QA to type 110's for 1 teens, they are correct to do so. Terminology and style are not power struggles; doctor versus MT or MT versus MT. The simple fact is that doctors have a medical degree and understand the science behind their words. MTs do not. Doctors are legally responsible for their words. MTs are not. Doctors have different opinions on style (110's versus 1 teens). They have the right to dictate it the way they want, and it should be typed as dictated (unless the MT is instructed by the hospital and QA to change it).
Our responsibility is to type reports that are true to the doctor's words. Why is that so hard?
Mayo Clinic - CardioMT
[ In Reply To ..]listed as Graves'... I think I would go with them.
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