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Industry Trends - CoolMT


Posted: Mar 21, 2010

I'm new to this board, but have been in the business a while.  There's obviously a lot of dissatisfaction on the way work is being moved to India and Speech Recognition.  Its affected me, too.  But, it is what it is.  The healthcare facilities  are being forced to cut costs, and the MTSOs have to respond to keep the business, which is unfortunate for us.

First, there was India.  HealthScribe, Focus Informatics, CBay, Heartland and others pushed this as a lower cost alternative to hospital CFOs and they took the bait.  Quality was awful at first, but improved a little over time, making this an attractive way cut costs.

For those CFOs reticent of India, but still wanting to save costs, Speech Rec was born.  eScription was at the forefront.  Now owned by Nuance, they still are.  This enabled the MT to be more productive by the text already being 90% plus present and they just needed to fix a few things.  This, of course, depends on the quality of the Speech Rec engine and how they qualify the dictators.

Some are successful on Speech Rec and some are not.  For those that are not, this means lower pay as most MTSOs cut your rate depending on the productivity there are expecting.  Since this is an average, some are above and some are below.  The ones below suffer.

Fast forward to 2010.  Healthcare is under more pressure than ever.  CFOs are looking wherever they can for savings.  Spheris bought HealthScribe giving them access to India.  They then brought in Multi Modal for Speech Rec.  Nuance bought Focus and then eScription, giving them India and Speech Rec.  They also bought the Speech Rec engine MQ uses, Phillips SR.  CBay bought MQ, giving MQ access to the offshore operations of CBay.  Transcend uses both eScription and Multi Modal and uses contractors for offshore.

Point is, these moves for cost cutting are coming directly from the price pressures from the facilities.  While India is less than 10% of the work being done, Speech Rec is probably at 40%, more than 60% if you're just counting the top MTSOs.

While we can't do anything about any of these trends, what we can do is band together and make a stand for what is fair.  I'm sure the thought of Unionization has been floated out there before, but why hasn't it taken hold?

I thought of two reasons: 1) with the low wages we already make, paying Union dues would be too much and 2) the work we do directly effects patient outcomes, and I could not think about someone being denied proper treatment because the report wasn't there.

 Consider this:  No hospital could withstand not receiving medical reports for a week.  This is actually far less than one week, but just being conservative.  No MTSO would have the resources to combat a walkout and the lashback from their clients.  In other words, they would forced to meet demands immediately and most likely before any type of walkout happened.

We need to capitalize on the leverage we have and Band together.  With the risk of a walkout being less than a week, the dues wouldn't need to be that much.  For those not familiar with Unions, the dues are to supplement a workers pay when they strike in protest for better conditions.

I didn't start this post to promote a union, but now, the more I think about it, it's the best option.  Let's see what you guys have to say and see where it goes.

 

I keep asking the same question but no Union Cheerleaders will - answer it . . . .

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How in the world will you contact and organize every single MT in the country? Only a fraction come to this board. So, how will this be done. Not all of us even live in the same state (all states have different laws), not all MTs work for the same employer.

Another question maybe you can answer --any effort to form a union will be shot down big time by hospital and MTSO alike. Where would the huge sum of money come from to hire our own legal staff. The hospitals and MTSOs have the best of the best, so we will have to have a legal team to match.

Do you have the money to travel all over the home from house, from Alaska to Hawaii to Maine and then back again to collect signatures? How would we even hold a preliminary vote when we don't even know how to contact every single MT in the country.

Also the federal government could break a union in one second, so what kind of strength to unions hold anymore?

Also, what to stop the MTSOs from just diverting the work to other offices in their country and offering endless OT to their workers?

Also if out of some MIRACLE a union would bring countless of separate MTs together and we would demand that we get paid decent wages -- what hospital/clinic/MTSO would hire us? Who? There is no law stating that they HAVE to hire us and pay HUGE wages when especially the hospitals are laying off people in droves.

I am interested for someone to seriously answer those questions. You all like to shake those union pom poms but you don't want to answer realistic questions.

So answer realistically these questions if you think you can put this together.

PS: I don't have money for a legal team or union dues, I am tapped out.

You need to talk to Dinosaur. - Maverick

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I think shipwrecked was another one that tried to help. There was a few of us that tried when CBAY was getting ready to buy MQ. That was our time, but everyone seemed to be AFRAID! Then the suits got on the board and some were actually from India and pretty much freaked me out. So, I knew deep down inside a Union might have worked because I was actually fighting with an Indian on the board.

Anyway, I have all the emails of my group of fellow MT's, about 60 of them.

Also, Dinosaur had the contacts of a Union and it only takes about 3-5 members to start a Union.

Lastly, this all needs to be televised and needs to be known widespread throughout the United States of what is going on with transcriptionists, medical reports, patient reports, overseas/outsourcing, etc.

Televised? You guys must be rich!! Which union are you going to - contact to join?

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I still don't know where you are going to get money for television/snail mail, email/radio campaign, I really don't.

But your FIRST huge HURDLE is contacting EVERYONE in your own MTSO because you are going to need a MAJORITY of votes to institute a union. 60 employees don't cut it. It doesn't.

I personally feel you all are beating a dead horse, but if you are serious --


According to labor union resources ----


Although every workplace is different and the needs of workers vary, there are some basic steps involved in winning a union voice on the job. Here's how it happens



To begin organizing a union at your workplace there’s a simple starting point before going through the steps listed below: quietly talk to a few of your co-workers who you think may be interested in organizing.



This small group starts to privately discuss workplace issues, what is involved in organizing a union, and making plans to contact the UNION. When you’re ready, contact us and a UNION representative will meet and/or talk with the small group to answer your questions and help you develop a comprehensive organizing plan.

Step 1: Build an Organizing Committee





Leaders are identified and an organizing committee representing all major departments and all shifts and reflecting the racial, ethnic and gender diversity in the workforce is established. Organizing committee training begins immediately. Committee members must be prepared to work hard to educate themselves and their co-workers about the union and to warn and educate co-workers about the impending management anti-union campaign. The organizing committee must be educated about workers’ right to organize and must understand UNION policies and principals of democracy and rank-and-file control.



Also at this step basic information about the workplace must be gathered including:



workplace structure: departments, work areas, jobs, shifts employee information: name, address, phone, shift, job title, and department for each worker (employee list) employer information: other locations, parent company, product(s), customers, union history.

Step 2: Adopt An Issues Program



The committee develops a program of union demands (the improvements you are are organizing to achieve) and a strategy for the union election campaign. A plan for highlighting the issues program in the workplace is carried out through various organizing campaign activities.

Step 3: Sign-Up Majority on Union Cards



Your co-workers are asked to join the union and support the union program by signing membership cards. The goal is to sign up a sizable majority. This "card campaign" should proceed quickly once begun and is necessary to hold a union election.

Step 4: Win the Union Election



The signed cards are used (and required) to petition the state or federal labor board to hold an election. It will take the labor board at least several weeks to determine who is eligible to vote and schedule the election. The union campaign must continue and intensify during the wait. If the union wins, the employer must recognize and bargain with the union. Winning a union election not only requires a strong, diverse organizing committee and a solid issues program, but there must also be a plan to fight the employer’s anti-union campaign.

Step 5: Negotiate a Contract



The organizing campaign does not let up after an election victory. The real goal of the campaign, a union contract (the document the union and the employer negotiate and sign, covering everything from wages to how disputes will be handled), is still to be achieved. Workers must be mobilized to support the union’s contract demands (decided by you and your co-workers) and pressure the employer to meet them. Organized! Make It Your Union!

laborunionresources dot org

Please note important need for step one in post above . . - ALL addresses, names, numbers, etc.

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Don't know how you are gonna do that.

Good luck.
Once you start the ball rolling - Maverick
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People do find out and hear about it, especially if it has to do with patient records. We have this wonderful board to spread the news and then there is always CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, local news in 50 states, etc.

Industry Trends - CoolMT

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Where did you find that info? Would be interested in the link. I can't believe it would be that hard to pull together as a force and get what we want even if it wasn't in the form of a "union But, even then I have to believe starting our own union is the way.
I got it - here . . .
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laborunionresources dot org

But it seems to me to be such a huge mountain to climb . . . .

good luck . . .

Rich? Hardly. - Maverick

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It is called emailing newscasts, state reps, Glenn Beck, CNN news, family, friends, etc. Besides, once you hear that patient's records being done by MT's are trying to a join a Union, even in a small town, it could easily turn to national news.

We need Geraldo or Barbara Walters to expose the exodus of medical information to India!! - anon

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My union research - shipwrecked

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I did a lot of research on unionizing MTs, and it was my conclusion that rather than trying to organize an MT-specific union, we would be better off getting a group of MT together and joining an already existing union.

There are several national healthcare-specific unions, e.g. Service Employees International Union - SEIU, or National Union of Healthcare Workers - NUHW. It would probably be cheaper too.

My other conclusion is that trying to organize MTs would be like trying to herd cats. We're too isolated and scattered. How would one go about reaching all MTs? A Very weak possibility would be to put an ad in the AAMG (or whatever the new name is) journal (if they still have one). but most MTs aren't members. There's also an annual convention, but I don't think MTs attend.

Putting an end to AHDI would be our best bet. - Cut the head off the serpent.

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Industry Trends - CoolMT

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Look, I don't know much about unions, let alone starting one, but if I get enough interest, I'll start the ball rolling. The trick is getting the workers to agree, management doesn't matter, though they'll be fighting it. If we can come together, we'll be a much bigger force than management.

India 10% - MT

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India is less than 10%? Others on the board have said that they are getting most of the work. Maybe I misunderstood your post. ?

Gotta be more than 10% - MQ's employees down from 10,000 to 3,000. - anon

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10% - CoolMT

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Just rough numbers, but this is supposedly a $10 billion industry. If you take the big MTSOs revenue; MQ - $300mm, Spheris - $150mm, eScription -$240mm (counting what the subs get); cBay - $60mm; Heartland - $30mm and others that get so small they're not even worth counting, the total revenue outsourced to MTSOs with the capability of offshoring is less than $1 billion or 10%. And, they are not all sending 100% of their work offshore. The majority of transcription in the US is done by mom and pops and in-house MTs.

Union info for CoolMT - Dinosaur

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I haven't been on this board for a while, and when I finally found a moment yesterday, there was my old friends Maverick and Shipwrecked talking about our unionization efforts. The link below is for the SEIU Union which was very interested in taking us on. I contacted my local chapter (you will see a section to find one nearest you on their site). We had a larger work force then, but their plan was to go after all MTSOs. This union has split and a separate union has since been created, but I have not looked into it as of yet.

There was also a second union that was interested, it was a nurses/healthcare worker union. I will have to go through my records to find the name of that one. I will need a few days to gather all the information from our last effort. Once I have it I will post it here for you.

I had 6 volunteers, 7 including myself, from this board who were located coast to coast (which worked out well). There are many options to get the word out at no cost (the web is a wonderful tool), and of course news media is free. The union representative will help you through it.

If you should decide to take on this challenge I will stand with you to help, I am sure Maverick will as well, but I am too old to head it up at this point. I know I kept some articles that will help too. Maverick and I never stopped gathering info on this. I will contact Maverick and see what she has kept and we will get you the information to you. Start by making a post on this board to get as many volunteers as you can. You can then start placing posts on other boards.

http://www.seiu.org/our-union/index.php


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