Posted By: they're just kids for crying out loud on 2008-03-05
In Reply to: It's only child abuse if you hit them hard enough - to leave a mark. Yes, you can

You can discipline them without a belt.  Use your hand.  It would do you good to feel that pain on your own hand, too.

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