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Smart People - Hi


Posted: Jan 29, 2012

Back in the mid and late 80s, I was VERY proud to be an MT!   MTs were savvy and SMART.  In fact, they were SO smart -- or at least knowledgable and proficient -- that docs RELIED ON THEM to repair poorly dictated or hastily dictated transcription.

My friend/former boss is a rheumatologist who constantly used to say, "I KNOW you're a deep thinker, so WHY are you a medical transcriptionist?"  Until recently, I didn't really understand why he asked that.

The trend in MT now for the last 10 years or so has been verbatim transcription.  This has reduced the role of the MT to that of a monkey (or a tape recorder), rotely capturing utterances, coherent or correct or cogent or NOT.  And this change has affected MTs, whether or not they realize it.

As I read the posts on this board and interact with coworkers, it is very discouraging because there is a HUGE chasm between us on almost every level.  I make a reference to some classic book or movie, and they have NO IDEA what I'm talking about!  They don't know that a male animal cannot be spayed.  They don't understand even the basics of things pertinent to their lives, such as the difference between Workman's Compensation and liability insurance.  They have never read any political book or taken a poli sci 101 course, yet they go on and on about politics (usually just ad hominem attacks, nothing substantive) as if they know what they're talking about.  They don't ask questions of others in order to gather more info, they just make hasty false assumptions.  Exposure to new info doesn't elicit, "Wow, I didn't know that.  I'd like to read some more about that, do you have a link or can you suggest a book on it?" but rather a kneejerk emotive attack on the messenger.  They make disparaging remarks about the caliber of work of off-the-clock MTs based on forum posts, even though those MTs are OFF work and they have never seen a single report of theirs.  They don't know English, including the parts of speech.  And -- most surprising of all -- they don't know anatomy.  They may know how to spellcheck a word, but they don't know WHERE the structure is relative to other structures.  I'm not suggesting that they should have the knowledge of an MD, but back in the day we MTs *KNEW* this stuff!

This board has a reputation for drawing the "nasty" and the "negative," but I see this at work as well -- in fact, a coworker criticized someone on this board for making a typo in a post on here.    

Everything is upside down!  Intellectual curiosity is GONE, but jumping someone's case for a TYPO is the NORM!  So the MINUTIAE are important, but the major stuff has gone "poof!"  IMO over the last 15 years or so the entire society has been dumbed down (I know some other "old timers" will agree with me on that), so it's not just MTs.  But I expect MORE from MTs because I KNOW they are capable.  I have SEEN IT with my own eyes.

 

 

 

Agree - Natalie

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I have no real comment about the people on here being uneducated - I haven't used this board enough to judge for myself, and honestly it seems somewhat judgmental anyway. But I agree 100% with this board seeming to draw in the nasty and the negative. That's why I've been using this board as little as possible, and never get into any debates or read ANYONE'S nasty opinions about MT companies or the MT profession itself.

Smart people - Conservative

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Glad to see your post. I stopped coming to this board because of the very reasons you mentioned. Take a walk on the wild side (politics board...LOL). I have never seen such hateful and mean-spirited comments all because of a difference of OPINION, or because they do not care for a TV station someone watches; the list goes on. The worst offenders (on any board) scream about documentation, links, back it up, etc...never post any themselves or ask a question intelligently to allow for sane discourse. Then they wonder why no one wants to respond to them. I have seen a few people here that enrich this process, but very few. Thank you for your post.

This is what the 1% want is a dumbed-down society - nm

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dumbed down - do not agree - Conservative

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Personally, I do not agree with that at all, and do not engage in the class warfare that is so common now. Every day, people make choices to either increase their knowledge or not. Whether we chose to learn, study, speak, write well is solely a personal decision.
If you don't realize that class warfare is against YOU, - and all the rest of us, then - sm
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you've already been dumbed-down.
Dumbed down - Speak for yourself
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Can only be "dumbed down" if you allow. Ever hear of self-sufficiency, self-taught, self-educated...probably not. Easier to blame someone else for shortcomings.
Brainwashed response. - nm
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Brainwashed response - Shows just how far you let yourself go - and prove
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Brainwashed response-nm - You demonstrate the brainwashing
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with your post. If you are so smart and got it all figured out, why allow yourself to be dumbed down?
Ya'll believe whatever you like, but MT has - been dangerously dumbed-down.
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If you seriously want to believe everything is all hunky-dory, then more power to you.
Ya'll believe - MT - Something seriously wrong with you
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Apparently you've been dumbed down to the point you can no longer read. I NEVER said everything was hunky dory about MT field or any other for that matter. And yes, more power to me because I don't sit around and cry like a baby and blame everyone else. Like I said before there is a lot to be said for self-education and self-sufficiency. Try it, you may just like it. Probably won't though; it's just easier for you to be rude.
Home schooling vs public school education - JW
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Hope you were home schooled because the public schools are the place where the dumbing down is happening and it is happening.
How many children do you currently have in - public schools?
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And why do you think the public schools are being dumbed down now?

Yep, that's why they tend not to hire more-experienced - MTs. They want the naive ones - sm

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who think 3.5 cpl is good "starting pay", not realizing that from there it will NOT go up, only down.

MTSOs want the less-experienced MTs because their work won't outshine their cash cows, the Indians doing our work.

They want MTs still wet-behind-the-ears, who don't remember a time when there was no offshoring or VR. MTs who don't know that any hospital who has bought into the joke that is VR has just been duped and conned by the companies that produce these ponderous, top-heave monstrosities that they obviously paid WAY too much money for.

It is so much easier - MTtoo

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to hate successful people than it is to take the risks they did and put in the effort and long hours they did to become successful too. If you're so smart, start a business, invent a product, develop a process, do something to become successful and improve your life yourself. Taking away what successful people have earned will not make anyone'e life better. The class warfare you're talking about is just envy.
Oh for Petes sake. Nobody hates successful people. - Its not about
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being jealous of wealth, worker bees versus drones, deadbeat slackers, celebrity millionaires or any other such nonsense where the argument revolves around perceived human character traits (often wildly inaccurate) that create socioeconomic castes.

It's about measurable economic conditions that define today's middle class...wage stagnation over the past 30+ years, the erosion or disappearance of job benefits, outsourcing, the shrinkage of upward mobility, status of an educational system where access to higher education has become increasingly obstructed by burgeoning costs that have transformed a college degree into a pipe dream reserved for the privileged ranks of upper crust echelons, the ever elusive American dream of home ownership, increased rates of foreclosures, poverty and hunger, particularly in children...the list goes on and on. MTs are the perfect poster child of dedicated people working their fingers to the bone, only to see significant cuts in pay and benefits while their jobs are shipped overseas right out from under them.

This is about reversing these alarming trends by identifying policy initiaties, whether it be reforms in the tax codes, health care, education, mortgage and small business financing, trade laws, unemployment, jobs growth, etc, that hold the potential to be beneficial to ALL Americans. The idea that the poor and near poor among us don't work or don't want to work is simply mean-spirited and patently false.
I hope "Oh for Pete Sake" and the original OP are not the same person. - see message
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The points offered in the "Oh for Pete Sake" post are very true, and mostly common sense, and I agree with the statements.

Now, the Smart People? Even if there was truth in what you say, why are you making it a point to come on here and insult people's intelligence? Why do you feel the need to let us know how "smart" you are? What is your point in letting everyone know how superior you feel?
MTtoo - You nailed it
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If people spent half of the time towards achieving their goals as they do on here belly aching, they would be much farther ahead. Envy is such a destructive thing.

Agree to some extent - sm

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While I do agree that some people on here are very negative, I don't necessarily think that makes the dumb by any means. I think one of the big differences between MTs today and MTs back in the 80's is that most of those MTs worked in-house. This makes a big difference when the doctor knows you by name. You can ask them a question and not get your head chewed off. I was a clinical employee before I became a full-time transcriptionist, and working in a doctor's office you learn so many things that you really don't working at home. I have a hard time believing that MTs in the 80's just automatically knew everything about transcription when they first started. A lot of the MTs on this board have only being doing this for a short period of time.

As far as negativity, I also found that while I worked at home full time that my whole mood changed. I no longer will do MT full time for this reason. That's not who I am. I felt like I was losing my ability to communicate with others. I think that reflects on this board. You have people who are depressed from never having any adult interaction. You have people who have worked very hard as an MT for years, to then losing their job to EMR and have no idea how they are going to pay their next bill, and now, they are bitter. It is hard for us that have jobs to understand this, but it does kind of make you negative about things.

I'm not really young but not old, but I really don't see the dumbed down that others see. I live in sort of a rural area where there are very many adults (probably more than not) who did not graduate from high school. They have a certain wisdom from years of living, but I'm sure the older generation then said the same thing about them as we are saying about our younger generations.

Smart People - you said

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"I expect more from MTs because I know they are capable. I have seen it with my own eyes."

Really? And you can speak for all MTs? Gimme a break. Maybe your account is "dumbed down," and maybe your acquaintances with certain MTs or others leads you to believe this of the entire population of MTs, or others, but I beg to differ. Maybe I am an "old timer," but I have been in this profession long enough to know it is just like any other, and there are going to be bad apples in every industry; teachers, cops, doctors, and MTs, etc.

You expect more from MTs? Clean up your own back yard.


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